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azza · 20-12-2009, 02:48 PM

G'day all, not sure of that many that know of my backgorund but here is some info. I have been training off and on for 20 years. In this time i have used almost all available supplements. The supplement industry is now worth in excess of 7 billion US per year and is tipped to rise to 12 billion within 5 years. Out of all these companys that manufacture supplements or have them done for them buy another company there are many useless and worthless supplements that offer no benefit to the trainee at all except to deprive of some hard earend cash. Marketing takes precedent over performance. However there are supplements that do work, that do offer performance when training and some even have an anabolic effect on building lean muscle.

Last year on another forum i started a supplement review thread after recieving some samples from a few companys. Being lactose intolerant means not all protein powders will work for me depending on what is used. I also review all pre/during and post workout drinks, Amino Acid based drinks, RTD's, Bars and fat burners. I have probably had over $3000 free product during the year and have a thread with 22 pages, 8200 views and over 300 posts. I am duplicating this thread here now with the mods permission (thanks Shrek) to help anyone with supplements.

While i dont do recomendations as such or am i biased to any brand there are references to the brands thanking them for the support that i recieve for reviewing the supplements. Do not get this mixed up with me trying to flog there products. If i think a product is crap, then its crap. I have unbiased, honest and fair opinions of these products. I use a star system being 1-5, 5 being best and 0 worst. I also post up the nutritional info, investigate where the ingredients come from and a cost per serve.

This information is designed to help you with supplement decision making only. Please dont use my thread as a brand bash or criticise the products. Most of the brand owners/managers/distributors read my threads from here and oversea"s. Keep it clean. If you have a question feel free to ask. I will be copy and pasting all of my review's up to now and then all future replys. Enjoy the ride.

AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 02:57 PM

Guys time for a new and helpfull topic called supplement review. I have been contacting all the suppliers and brands over the last week and have obtained quite a few samples of various supplements. Samples include Australian and American brands and include protein samples and pre-post workout drinks. As they are only samples i will review each one and tell you what i think based on my criteria.
For protein samples i will base my criteria on
1) Taste
2) Mixability
3) Digestion
4) Star rating out of 5. 5 for best and 1 or none for worst.

Pre-workout drinks.
1) Taste
2) Mixabilty.
3) Digestion
4) Noticeable pump
5) Vascularity
6) Strength improvement
7) Endurance or lactic acid improvement

Recovery

Note-I will be doing comparisions on ingredients, to compare the quality of the proteins eg, WPC ratio and WPI ratio's if possible. On workout drinks i will include if any caffeine is in the product as well.

Any other products sent out will be reviewed as well. eg fat burners, rtd's, bars and cereals.
No i am not a scientist or lab rat but understand what i have to, i have over 15 years training and supplement experience and have used everything from Dessicated Liver to Vanadyl Sulphate so you will get unbiased opinion's.
AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 02:59 PM

1st reviews are in. Today i did chest only as i wanted to review Labrada Super Charge Xtreme N.O. and ProV60 and here are my thoughts.
I will give a star rating for the criteria. one star the lowest and five star the highest.

Super Charge Xtreme N.O. Fruit Punch. 32 gram serve
Taste 4 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
Pump 3 STARS
Vascular improvement 3 STARS
Increase in workout or intensity 3 STARS
General comments, after trying various workout drinks in the past this one actualy tasted good and mixed easily with no gritty sandy bits. I did not change this workout from my usual one. Had a chest pump and vascular improvement, had a few veins showing after workout. Will be good to compare with others in the reviews. This is the bench mark for the moment.
PROV60 Chocalate Cream. 40 gram serve.
Taste 5 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
General comments. Nice and creamy. I could use this every day 3 times a day. If only you could buy a 10lb bag.
Whats being tested toomorow? Watch this space.
AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 02:59 PM

Before bed protein drink review.
Urban Muscle Platinum Blend Chocolate.
Taste 4 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
General comments. Not as strong or rich flavour. Tastes very natural like a cocoa taste. Quite nice.
AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 03:00 PM

Todays review, Quads and Calves workout, no change to normal workout.
Pre-workout drink
Dymatize XPAND pink lemeonade 18.5 gram serve
Taste 3 STARS
Mixability 3 STARS
Digestability 4 STARS
Pump 3 STARS
Vascular improvement 2 STARS
Workout improvement 2 STARS
Comments. Taste was what you would expect with a N.O drink, no caffeine in this one. Did not mix as well as Supercharge. Slight to middle pump. Supercharge is still the benchmark in this review.

Protein and carb drink
Nutrition Science Giant Mass not sure of the serving size maybe 40-50 grams, anyway i had 2 serves for the carbs. Vanilla
Taste 5 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestibility 5 STARS
Comments. This was like drinking vanilla ice cream, it was fantastic. No bloat or after taste. Lance from Nutrition Science has a high quality great tasting drink here.
Whats on toomorow? watch this space
AZZA

Admin · 20-12-2009, 03:00 PM

thanks for the reviews azza i am sure a lot of members will find them rather informative , the mods and I will keep an eye on the threads and keep it clean and tidy

azza · 20-12-2009, 03:00 PM

Todays review. Trained Biceps. Morning shake
Nutrition Science Hydrolysed Whey Isolate Chocolate. Unsure of serving size, probably 40 grams so had 2.
Taste 5 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
General comments. Not a strong chocolate taste, same creamy texture as the Giant Mass.

Pre-workout drink
Isatori Morph.
6 pills.
I had a severe alergic reaction to this during my workout. I have never had a reaction to anything. My arms, shoulders, traps and neck all went tingly and i developed a severe rash like prickly heat. I had increased temp and felt i was sweating but no sweat. I stopped after 8 sets as it got worse. Almost a hour to clear up.I was about to get anti-hystemeans when it cleared. The plus was the product targeted the worked muscle, biceps and they were swole. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO EVERYONE WHO USES THIS PRODUCT. Discontinue use if any of these symptoms occur. Others i know have used this product with good results.

Protein drink
Dymatize Elite Whep Protein Isolate Rich Chocolate. 32.4gram
Taste 4 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
digestability 5 STARS.
General comments. Rich chocolate flavour, strong and rich for me but a different tasting chocolate to the others.
Whats toomorow? Watch this space.
AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 03:01 PM

I am a bit behind here but here is Thursday's review. Trained Shoulders. Morning shake.
Science Nutrition Dominace Whey Protein vanilla 30gram serve and had 2 packets.
Taste 5 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
Comments I have now tried 3 different Science Nutrition protein drinks and blends, it is evident that all criteria for my review is across the board with 5 STARS so that is a recomendation from that point. For pricing you would have to go to there website.

Pre-workout drink. BSN N.O-XPLODE fruit punch 20.5gram.
Taste 3 STARS
Mixability 3 STARS
Digestability 4 STARS
PUMP 3 STARS
Vascular improvement 2 STARS
Workout improvement 2 STARS.
General comments. This was the first one i have tried which didnt mix all the serve up and left little floaties. Taste was ok for these drinks. I noticed only slight differences in pump, vascularity and workout intensity. There are probably some variables with my workouts this week due to work. I train at lunch time and have already worked 6 hours straight up until then. The workout drinks taken i feel have improved the energy levels during my workouts. Only one drink has had caffeine in it. I will be re-doing all workout drinks on different muscles as i feel they all need another go.

After workout protein drink Dymatize Elite Berry Blast 31gram.
Taste 4 STARS
Mixability 5 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
Comments All the Dymatize drinks so far have had strong flavours and pleasent to drink.
Whats next? watch this space
AZZA

azza · 20-12-2009, 03:02 PM

Trained back today.
Post workout drink MAX's Extreme Mass Gain Formula 50 gram serve, took 3 serves 150 gram of Banana Creme
Taste 5 STARS
Mixability 4 STARS
Digestability 5 STARS
Comments I would not normally buy banana flavoured protein drinks. I kept a open mind on this when mixing it up. I also dont usually have 150 grams in 400ml lactose free milk either but i wanted the carbs. This was a very nice creamy shake. Anyone contemplating a banana flavour, cant go past this.
AZZA

20-12-2009, 02:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
Admin Administrator. Graeme Join Date: Nov 2006 Gender: Posts: 2,808	Please see Supplement reviews - Ausbb - Australian BodyBuilding for more reviews __________________ Ausbb- Australian Body Building serving all of your fitness,Body Building needs, conditioning, fat loss, training, supplements and so much more New to this forum? Follow these steps: 1) Register free as a member 2) Introduce Yourself 3) Ask questions, post some answers, learn more 4) Get back to the gym and build more muscle! 5) Create your own Training Diary One team: Ausbb Join Ausbb on facebook Make a Donation. Ausbb Sponsors Ausbb Member of the month - Vote now! Do you own or use a small Gym? Message to all New comers and lurkers: Don't be Afraid to post even if some of the topics might be out of your league don't hide in the shadows jump into General Topic and get to know some of the girls and guys on the forum TAKE PART IN THE 2012 BODYTRANSFORMATION COMP Ausbb is all you need VicFishing - Victorian Fishing forum ps it's Graeme - not Graham

20-12-2009, 02:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Supplement reviews G'day all, not sure of that many that know of my backgorund but here is some info. I have been training off and on for 20 years. In this time i have used almost all available supplements. The supplement industry is now worth in excess of 7 billion US per year and is tipped to rise to 12 billion within 5 years. Out of all these companys that manufacture supplements or have them done for them buy another company there are many useless and worthless supplements that offer no benefit to the trainee at all except to deprive of some hard earend cash. Marketing takes precedent over performance. However there are supplements that do work, that do offer performance when training and some even have an anabolic effect on building lean muscle. Last year on another forum i started a supplement review thread after recieving some samples from a few companys. Being lactose intolerant means not all protein powders will work for me depending on what is used. I also review all pre/during and post workout drinks, Amino Acid based drinks, RTD's, Bars and fat burners. I have probably had over $3000 free product during the year and have a thread with 22 pages, 8200 views and over 300 posts. I am duplicating this thread here now with the mods permission (thanks Shrek) to help anyone with supplements. While i dont do recomendations as such or am i biased to any brand there are references to the brands thanking them for the support that i recieve for reviewing the supplements. Do not get this mixed up with me trying to flog there products. If i think a product is crap, then its crap. I have unbiased, honest and fair opinions of these products. I use a star system being 1-5, 5 being best and 0 worst. I also post up the nutritional info, investigate where the ingredients come from and a cost per serve. This information is designed to help you with supplement decision making only. Please dont use my thread as a brand bash or criticise the products. Most of the brand owners/managers/distributors read my threads from here and oversea"s. Keep it clean. If you have a question feel free to ask. I will be copy and pasting all of my review's up to now and then all future replys. Enjoy the ride. AZZA Last edited by azza; 20-12-2009 at 02:56 PM. Reason: spell

20-12-2009, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Admin Administrator. Graeme Join Date: Nov 2006 Gender: Posts: 2,808	thanks for the reviews azza i am sure a lot of members will find them rather informative , the mods and I will keep an eye on the threads and keep it clean and tidy __________________ Ausbb- Australian Body Building serving all of your fitness,Body Building needs, conditioning, fat loss, training, supplements and so much more New to this forum? Follow these steps: 1) Register free as a member 2) Introduce Yourself 3) Ask questions, post some answers, learn more 4) Get back to the gym and build more muscle! 5) Create your own Training Diary One team: Ausbb Join Ausbb on facebook Make a Donation. Ausbb Sponsors Ausbb Member of the month - Vote now! Do you own or use a small Gym? Message to all New comers and lurkers: Don't be Afraid to post even if some of the topics might be out of your league don't hide in the shadows jump into General Topic and get to know some of the girls and guys on the forum TAKE PART IN THE 2012 BODYTRANSFORMATION COMP Ausbb is all you need VicFishing - Victorian Fishing forum ps it's Graeme - not Graham

20-12-2009, 02:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Guys time for a new and helpfull topic called supplement review. I have been contacting all the suppliers and brands over the last week and have obtained quite a few samples of various supplements. Samples include Australian and American brands and include protein samples and pre-post workout drinks. As they are only samples i will review each one and tell you what i think based on my criteria. For protein samples i will base my criteria on 1) Taste 2) Mixability 3) Digestion 4) Star rating out of 5. 5 for best and 1 or none for worst. Pre-workout drinks. 1) Taste 2) Mixabilty. 3) Digestion 4) Noticeable pump 5) Vascularity 6) Strength improvement 7) Endurance or lactic acid improvement Recovery Note-I will be doing comparisions on ingredients, to compare the quality of the proteins eg, WPC ratio and WPI ratio's if possible. On workout drinks i will include if any caffeine is in the product as well. Any other products sent out will be reviewed as well. eg fat burners, rtd's, bars and cereals. No i am not a scientist or lab rat but understand what i have to, i have over 15 years training and supplement experience and have used everything from Dessicated Liver to Vanadyl Sulphate so you will get unbiased opinion's. AZZA

20-12-2009, 02:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	1st reviews are in. Today i did chest only as i wanted to review Labrada Super Charge Xtreme N.O. and ProV60 and here are my thoughts. I will give a star rating for the criteria. one star the lowest and five star the highest. Super Charge Xtreme N.O. Fruit Punch. 32 gram serve Taste 4 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS Pump 3 STARS Vascular improvement 3 STARS Increase in workout or intensity 3 STARS General comments, after trying various workout drinks in the past this one actualy tasted good and mixed easily with no gritty sandy bits. I did not change this workout from my usual one. Had a chest pump and vascular improvement, had a few veins showing after workout. Will be good to compare with others in the reviews. This is the bench mark for the moment. PROV60 Chocalate Cream. 40 gram serve. Taste 5 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS General comments. Nice and creamy. I could use this every day 3 times a day. If only you could buy a 10lb bag. Whats being tested toomorow? Watch this space. AZZA

20-12-2009, 02:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Before bed protein drink review. Urban Muscle Platinum Blend Chocolate. Taste 4 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS General comments. Not as strong or rich flavour. Tastes very natural like a cocoa taste. Quite nice. AZZA

20-12-2009, 03:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Todays review, Quads and Calves workout, no change to normal workout. Pre-workout drink Dymatize XPAND pink lemeonade 18.5 gram serve Taste 3 STARS Mixability 3 STARS Digestability 4 STARS Pump 3 STARS Vascular improvement 2 STARS Workout improvement 2 STARS Comments. Taste was what you would expect with a N.O drink, no caffeine in this one. Did not mix as well as Supercharge. Slight to middle pump. Supercharge is still the benchmark in this review. Protein and carb drink Nutrition Science Giant Mass not sure of the serving size maybe 40-50 grams, anyway i had 2 serves for the carbs. Vanilla Taste 5 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestibility 5 STARS Comments. This was like drinking vanilla ice cream, it was fantastic. No bloat or after taste. Lance from Nutrition Science has a high quality great tasting drink here. Whats on toomorow? watch this space AZZA

20-12-2009, 03:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Todays review. Trained Biceps. Morning shake Nutrition Science Hydrolysed Whey Isolate Chocolate. Unsure of serving size, probably 40 grams so had 2. Taste 5 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS General comments. Not a strong chocolate taste, same creamy texture as the Giant Mass. Pre-workout drink Isatori Morph. 6 pills. I had a severe alergic reaction to this during my workout. I have never had a reaction to anything. My arms, shoulders, traps and neck all went tingly and i developed a severe rash like prickly heat. I had increased temp and felt i was sweating but no sweat. I stopped after 8 sets as it got worse. Almost a hour to clear up.I was about to get anti-hystemeans when it cleared. The plus was the product targeted the worked muscle, biceps and they were swole. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO EVERYONE WHO USES THIS PRODUCT. Discontinue use if any of these symptoms occur. Others i know have used this product with good results. Protein drink Dymatize Elite Whep Protein Isolate Rich Chocolate. 32.4gram Taste 4 STARS Mixability 5 STARS digestability 5 STARS. General comments. Rich chocolate flavour, strong and rich for me but a different tasting chocolate to the others. Whats toomorow? Watch this space. AZZA

20-12-2009, 03:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	I am a bit behind here but here is Thursday's review. Trained Shoulders. Morning shake. Science Nutrition Dominace Whey Protein vanilla 30gram serve and had 2 packets. Taste 5 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS Comments I have now tried 3 different Science Nutrition protein drinks and blends, it is evident that all criteria for my review is across the board with 5 STARS so that is a recomendation from that point. For pricing you would have to go to there website. Pre-workout drink. BSN N.O-XPLODE fruit punch 20.5gram. Taste 3 STARS Mixability 3 STARS Digestability 4 STARS PUMP 3 STARS Vascular improvement 2 STARS Workout improvement 2 STARS. General comments. This was the first one i have tried which didnt mix all the serve up and left little floaties. Taste was ok for these drinks. I noticed only slight differences in pump, vascularity and workout intensity. There are probably some variables with my workouts this week due to work. I train at lunch time and have already worked 6 hours straight up until then. The workout drinks taken i feel have improved the energy levels during my workouts. Only one drink has had caffeine in it. I will be re-doing all workout drinks on different muscles as i feel they all need another go. After workout protein drink Dymatize Elite Berry Blast 31gram. Taste 4 STARS Mixability 5 STARS Digestability 5 STARS Comments All the Dymatize drinks so far have had strong flavours and pleasent to drink. Whats next? watch this space AZZA

20-12-2009, 03:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Trained back today. Post workout drink MAX's Extreme Mass Gain Formula 50 gram serve, took 3 serves 150 gram of Banana Creme Taste 5 STARS Mixability 4 STARS Digestability 5 STARS Comments I would not normally buy banana flavoured protein drinks. I kept a open mind on this when mixing it up. I also dont usually have 150 grams in 400ml lactose free milk either but i wanted the carbs. This was a very nice creamy shake. Anyone contemplating a banana flavour, cant go past this. AZZA