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Old 04-05-2010, 12:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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But what are you taking in regards to building a tolerance, and how are you measuring your tolerance?

amino acids dont just stop working..
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Perhaps a lot of it is psychological. But a lot of products like jacked have stimulants in them that are more than just beta alanine or arganine. Its these other stimulants that I imagine I build the tolerance for if I take it for too long of a period. I find with most pre-workouts I have to up the dosage to feel the same intensity.

On a side note, I am wondering, I thought you did build a tolerance (or diminishing returns) from aminos (e.g. creatine) and that was the purpose for cycling.

I know you will laugh but I heard a guy in the gym go so far as to say he feels the effect of taking protein powder is diminishing - so he cycles it. (the dude is a giant)
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Perhaps a lot of it is psychological. But a lot of products like jacked have stimulants in them that are more than just beta alanine or arganine. Its these other stimulants that I imagine I build the tolerance for if I take it for too long of a period. I find with most pre-workouts I have to up the dosage to feel the same intensity.

On a side note, I am wondering, I thought you did build a tolerance (or diminishing returns) from aminos (e.g. creatine) and that was the purpose for cycling.

I know you will laugh but I heard a guy in the gym go so far as to say he feels the effect of taking protein powder is diminishing - so he cycles it. (the dude is a giant)

Have you thought of the affects of these stimulants on your CNS?

As for the giant... Good shirt he may be able to purchase online..

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Interesting... but no way i am passing on the message.. I want to live.
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15) Play With The Protein
Did you know reducing your protein intake that to .6 grams per pound of bodyweight for 4 consecutive days out of the month might be helpful? During the shortfall, the body “fights” to protect its muscle by releasing enzymes and messengers that oppose muscle loss. When you return to a higher protein intake, the body overcompensates and retains more protein for added growth.

A quote from your old mate Shrek - seems at least on some level he would actually agree with mr giant in the gym.
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15) Play With The Protein
Did you know reducing your protein intake that to .6 grams per pound of bodyweight for 4 consecutive days out of the month might be helpful? During the shortfall, the body “fights” to protect its muscle by releasing enzymes and messengers that oppose muscle loss. When you return to a higher protein intake, the body overcompensates and retains more protein for added growth.

A quote from your old mate Shrek - seems at least on some level he would actually agree with mr giant in the gym.

You were talking about cycling 2-3 weeks.
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I always do the caffeine before a cardio workout, i don't see why a nitric ox product would be better?
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