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**The Hulk** · 11-08-2009, 04:46 PM

And yes, you still get a 5% discount if you are a member of sizematters, it all adds up.

Delivery fee is good too, only $7 for my order of 25kg of mixed product.

hyjak · 11-08-2009, 06:02 PM

i think my next order will be from these guys, no-frills cheap protein is exactly what im after

16-08-2009, 10:17 PM

Just put an order yesterday for 2.5kg choc WPI for a try.

The Max's stuff definitely worked (mind you, 1st time protein powder user so any decent protein would make a diff...) so eager to see how this stuff compares.

hyjak · 21-08-2009, 03:33 PM

just put in an order for 2.5kg unflavoured WPI. hopefully will taste ok with banana and peanut butter for my morning shake, dont really care what it tastes like in my pre and post workout shakes as long as it mixes half decent

22-08-2009, 02:57 AM

it mixes just fine, and the taste is actually growing on me instead of getting sick of it like i normally would, i thinnk its just not as sweet as most powders

Fadi · 22-08-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hyjak

just put in an order for 2.5kg unflavoured WPI. hopefully will taste ok with banana and peanut butter for my morning shake, dont really care what it tastes like in my pre and post workout shakes as long as it mixes half decent

David, I don't know where you get your unflavoured protein from, but it's always a good idea to insure that it's from down under or from our neighbours across the Tasman. May I suggest you mixing it with apple juice (if you like apple juice that is) if that was going to be your first protein shake of the day. After fasting, is the best time to take advantage of fructose, which will do an amazing job in replenishing liver glycogen after a night fast.

I don't know if you or anyone else here is aware; fructose is a sugar with a double edge sword like my favourite hormone of all, the mighty insulin. Fructose can NOT be converted into muscle glycogen; hence you will not find me recommending fruit after a workout when muscle glycogen replenishment is paramount. That’s why I asked Shammo to insure his after workouts banana are rip; indicating a high ratio of glucose to fructose and therefore an insulin spike. However first thing in the morning, a fruit juice full of fructose will be heaven for your liver's glycogen replenishment. That doesn't mean you can't have other carbs with it at that time, but it's always a good practice to have it at that time.

I hope I haven’t confused the issue here for you guys. If I have, then please disregard what I’ve written.

Fadi.

22-08-2009, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fadi

David, I don't know where you get your unflavoured protein from, but it's always a good idea to insure that it's from down under or from our neighbours across the Tasman. May I suggest you mixing it with apple juice (if you like apple juice that is) if that was going to be your first protein shake of the day. After fasting, is the best time to take advantage of fructose, which will do an amazing job in replenishing liver glycogen after a night fast.

I don't know if you or anyone else here is aware; fructose is a sugar with a double edge sword like my favourite hormone of all, the mighty insulin. Fructose can NOT be converted into muscle glycogen; hence you will not find me recommending fruit after a workout when muscle glycogen replenishment is paramount. That’s why I asked Shammo to insure his after workouts banana are rip; indicating a high ratio of glucose to fructose and therefore an insulin spike. However first thing in the morning, a fruit juice full of fructose will be heaven for your liver's glycogen replenishment. That doesn't mean you can't have other carbs with it at that time, but it's always a good practice to have it at that time.

I hope I haven’t confused the issue here for you guys. If I have, then please disregard what I’ve written.

Fadi.

David, like the thread name suggest, has quite litterally ordered this batch of WPI from Protein Direct.
PROTEINDIRECT - WORLD CLASS PROTEINS
which is from our neighbors.
I do always make sure that my bananas are ripe, mainly becuase they taste better, i was however unaware of the conversion from fructose to glucose as they rippen.
Im not going to disregard what you have written but admit to being slighty confused

Why is that fructose can not be converted to muscle glycogen??

Fadi · 22-08-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shammo

Im not going to disregard what you have written but admit to being slighty confused

Why is that fructose can not be converted to muscle glycogen??

Shammo,

I respect you not disregarding what I’ve written and for that you most certainly deserve an explanation from me.

Fructose can do three things in the body.

1. It can be converted to fat in the liver.
2. It fills liver glycogen stores so that even good complex carbs are more prone to spill over into fat.
3. It can not be used by the muscles to recover glycogen. Why? Because muscles do not have the enzymatic machinery needed to convert fructose into glycogen.

What the above basically means is that fructose represents a dietary carbohydrate load that is targeted for the liver. Does that mean fruit with all its vitamins, minerals, and fibre is bad now? No, but if you’re demanding only the best of the best, then I would have to be honest with you that unless you know which fruit to eat (based on its fructose to glucose ratio and when to eat it) then I would be doing you a disservice.

Hence my recommendation of taking advantage of fruit or its juice first thing in the morning when liver glycogen stores are at their lowest as well as about 1 hour before training if you find yourself hungry and you haven’t eaten a high carb meal for sometime. At this moment, by eating a piece of fruit, you’ll not only top up your liver’s glycogen, but you’ll save your muscle glycogen from being catabolised for energy. Please note Shammo, I’m not suggesting a pre workout piece of fruit here; we’re talking 1 hour before, 1 piece of fruit.

I’m sorry re something I’ve said before in regard to fructose converting to glucose as bananas ripen. What I meant to say was that starches are converted into sugars as bananas ripen. And these sugars as far as bananas are concerned are 50/50 glucose to fructose.

Well Shammo, I hope I have somewhat decreased your confusion and I thank you for reading.

Reference:

Shafrir E. Fructose/sucrose metabolism, its physiological and pathological implications. Sugars and Sweeteners, Kretchmer N and Hollenbeck CB, Eds. CRC Press, 1991, pp. 63-98.

Fadi.

hyjak · 22-08-2009, 01:14 PM

thanks Fadi, yes the protein is from new zealand. my morning shake is the only one that contains fruit, i have 1 banana in it and a usually eat some more fruit in the morning. my pre and post workout shakes are purely protein and carbs.

Fadi · 22-08-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hyjak

thanks Fadi, yes the protein is from new zealand. my morning shake is the only one that contains fruit, i have 1 banana in it and a usually eat some more fruit in the morning. my pre and post workout shakes are purely protein and carbs.

You're magic David.

Fadi.

11-08-2009, 06:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,877	i think my next order will be from these guys, no-frills cheap protein is exactly what im after __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups

21-08-2009, 03:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,877	just put in an order for 2.5kg unflavoured WPI. hopefully will taste ok with banana and peanut butter for my morning shake, dont really care what it tastes like in my pre and post workout shakes as long as it mixes half decent __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups

22-08-2009, 01:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,877	thanks Fadi, yes the protein is from new zealand. my morning shake is the only one that contains fruit, i have 1 banana in it and a usually eat some more fruit in the morning. my pre and post workout shakes are purely protein and carbs. __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups

11-08-2009, 04:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
The Hulk Active Member Site Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 2,092	And yes, you still get a 5% discount if you are a member of sizematters, it all adds up. Delivery fee is good too, only $7 for my order of 25kg of mixed product.

16-08-2009, 10:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
EdCid Guest Posts: n/a	Just put an order yesterday for 2.5kg choc WPI for a try. The Max's stuff definitely worked (mind you, 1st time protein powder user so any decent protein would make a diff...) so eager to see how this stuff compares.

22-08-2009, 02:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
shammo Guest Posts: n/a	it mixes just fine, and the taste is actually growing on me instead of getting sick of it like i normally would, i thinnk its just not as sweet as most powders