Pre workout supps..what to take? - Ausbb

06-11-2009, 10:39 PM

Hi there,
at the moment I am taking a Whey protein shake post workout. I have my dinner at about 6.30pm, and go to the gym at 8.30pm. When I get back at 9.30 I have my shake.
Would it be beneficial to take a pre workout shake of some kind?
If so, what do you all recommend?

thanks for your time.

Jman_898 · 06-11-2009, 11:06 PM

have you considered a type of creatine pre workout drink? most of them these days are laced with caffiene to give you a massive buzz but the creatine is great pre and even post training. most pre drinks these days have nitric oxide in them which is a vasodialator (makes your veins increase in internal size to flow more oxygen enriched blook) im still getting into things myself but i love to read about this sort of thing. from what ive seen so far and what ive been using to my advantage is i take a protein shake high in carbs and fast acting proteings about hour and a half before training. i take a creatine drink (eg: NO xplod) for a big energy buzz (only been using it for the past week but ive used it in the past a few years ago) and a good post workout protein shake with a good meal (preferably a protein powder containing bcaa's and creatine but no caffiene! lol)

so far in 2 and a half months ive dropped 2% body fat and gained 7.5 kilo's of muscle

i hope this is of some help. im sure there are others on this forum who can narrow this down a little more for you.
just my 2 cents

Cheers,
Jeremy

alex · 06-11-2009, 11:08 PM

hi there what type of build are you? and what are you looking to achieve? im a lean 23 yr old and im looking to gain lean mass and im using optimum nutrition pro complex lean gainer. it is a great product, easy to drink and gives you high quality proteins.

cheers alex

06-11-2009, 11:20 PM

Hi guys, thanks for your replies.
JMAN - I have a creatine powder which I use, but I have heard that there are good protein powders for pre workouts such as VP2. I use Dymatize creatine monohydrate. I take 1 tsp before a workout. Is this ok?
ALEX - My build is quite good. Take a look at my photos in my profile. I gained quite a bit of muscle in the last 2 months. I am looking at gaining more muscle mass and strengthen and tone.

07-11-2009, 12:18 AM

N0 supplement.

For example

Nitric Oxide - Supplements Plus

I take White Flood before a workout to give me an extra boost.

Jman_898 · 07-11-2009, 12:24 AM

are you using that creatine with anything else pre training? and also what have you found the effects of it? if it doesnt contain caffein then it wouldnt be such a bad idea to add it with a post shake too, as far as my knowledge tells me creatine acts as a protein synthesizer and aids the absorbtion into the muscle. i would love to see some other maby more experienced members shed their hard gained opinions here as im keen to see also

i understand most of the affects of these supplements but as for the quantities i have no clue yet lol. just about to start a new batch of supplements myself

i think when it comes down to individuals you have to play with quantites rather than sticking to suggested serving sizes. Given a fair few more years experience (such as the wisdom alot of the people on this forum have) i would be more than happy to help but so far i have just been sharing what i learnt in the hope to help somehow

one main thing i have deffinately learnt is that they are supplements... you cant go past a good nutritious meal, they are just to fill in the gaps when you cant stuff too much good food down your gullet

stralian · 07-11-2009, 12:41 AM

Can I please recommend you DON'T take a pre-workout with caffeine in it!!!
I assume you wouldn't because of the time you workout, but it's worth mentioning since pretty much 90% of off the shelf stuff 'Pre-workout' stuff has caffeine in it, most of the time hidden under another name.

Not to mention caffeine is the worst thing in the world, regardless of whether you are bodybuilding or not :P

07-11-2009, 12:50 AM

ok I take my creatine with water alone. I dont think it has caffeine in it. Its the Dymatize brand if anyone uses it, they will know. I will have to take a look at it. I have it about 30 mins before my workout. The after my workout, I will have when isolate protein drink with some leucine mixed in. The before bed, some casein powder.

Fadi · 07-11-2009, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stralian

Can I please recommend you DON'T take a pre-workout with caffeine in it!!!
I assume you wouldn't because of the time you workout, but it's worth mentioning since pretty much 90% of off the shelf stuff 'Pre-workout' stuff has caffeine in it, most of the time hidden under another name.

Not to mention caffeine is the worst thing in the world, regardless of whether you are bodybuilding or not :P

X2!

Fadi.

raphsta · 07-11-2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADDYSMUM

I have a creatine powder which I use, but I have heard that there are good protein powders for pre workouts such as VP2.

VP2 is just an overpriced WPI product.
You mention you have WPI already, so need to fork out for some marketing hype. VP2 will give no benefit over your existing protein supplement.

Listen to Stralian, and Fadi ..
Some of the others were too quick to jump in and recommend products that contained caffeine, even though you said you train at 8.30pm...
We've had good discussions on here previously regarding these caffeine based pre-workout supps, and the genereal consesus is that they do more harm than good when it comes to building muscle.

06-11-2009, 10:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
MADDYSMUM Guest Posts: n/a	Pre workout supps..what to take? Hi there, at the moment I am taking a Whey protein shake post workout. I have my dinner at about 6.30pm, and go to the gym at 8.30pm. When I get back at 9.30 I have my shake. Would it be beneficial to take a pre workout shake of some kind? If so, what do you all recommend? thanks for your time.

07-11-2009, 12:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
stralian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: QLD Gender: Posts: 251	Can I please recommend you DON'T take a pre-workout with caffeine in it!!! I assume you wouldn't because of the time you workout, but it's worth mentioning since pretty much 90% of off the shelf stuff 'Pre-workout' stuff has caffeine in it, most of the time hidden under another name. Not to mention caffeine is the worst thing in the world, regardless of whether you are bodybuilding or not :P __________________ The Aussie Way! http://ausbb.com/rules-information-m...eam-ausbb.html

06-11-2009, 11:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jman_898 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: sydney Gender: Posts: 248	have you considered a type of creatine pre workout drink? most of them these days are laced with caffiene to give you a massive buzz but the creatine is great pre and even post training. most pre drinks these days have nitric oxide in them which is a vasodialator (makes your veins increase in internal size to flow more oxygen enriched blook) im still getting into things myself but i love to read about this sort of thing. from what ive seen so far and what ive been using to my advantage is i take a protein shake high in carbs and fast acting proteings about hour and a half before training. i take a creatine drink (eg: NO xplod) for a big energy buzz (only been using it for the past week but ive used it in the past a few years ago) and a good post workout protein shake with a good meal (preferably a protein powder containing bcaa's and creatine but no caffiene! lol) so far in 2 and a half months ive dropped 2% body fat and gained 7.5 kilo's of muscle i hope this is of some help. im sure there are others on this forum who can narrow this down a little more for you. just my 2 cents Cheers, Jeremy

06-11-2009, 11:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
alex Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Aust Gender: Posts: 376	hi there what type of build are you? and what are you looking to achieve? im a lean 23 yr old and im looking to gain lean mass and im using optimum nutrition pro complex lean gainer. it is a great product, easy to drink and gives you high quality proteins. cheers alex

06-11-2009, 11:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
MADDYSMUM Guest Posts: n/a	Hi guys, thanks for your replies. JMAN - I have a creatine powder which I use, but I have heard that there are good protein powders for pre workouts such as VP2. I use Dymatize creatine monohydrate. I take 1 tsp before a workout. Is this ok? ALEX - My build is quite good. Take a look at my photos in my profile. I gained quite a bit of muscle in the last 2 months. I am looking at gaining more muscle mass and strengthen and tone.

07-11-2009, 12:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
-LJ- Guest Posts: n/a	N0 supplement. For example Nitric Oxide - Supplements Plus I take White Flood before a workout to give me an extra boost.

07-11-2009, 12:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jman_898 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: sydney Gender: Posts: 248	are you using that creatine with anything else pre training? and also what have you found the effects of it? if it doesnt contain caffein then it wouldnt be such a bad idea to add it with a post shake too, as far as my knowledge tells me creatine acts as a protein synthesizer and aids the absorbtion into the muscle. i would love to see some other maby more experienced members shed their hard gained opinions here as im keen to see also i understand most of the affects of these supplements but as for the quantities i have no clue yet lol. just about to start a new batch of supplements myself i think when it comes down to individuals you have to play with quantites rather than sticking to suggested serving sizes. Given a fair few more years experience (such as the wisdom alot of the people on this forum have) i would be more than happy to help but so far i have just been sharing what i learnt in the hope to help somehow one main thing i have deffinately learnt is that they are supplements... you cant go past a good nutritious meal, they are just to fill in the gaps when you cant stuff too much good food down your gullet

07-11-2009, 12:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
MADDYSMUM Guest Posts: n/a	ok I take my creatine with water alone. I dont think it has caffeine in it. Its the Dymatize brand if anyone uses it, they will know. I will have to take a look at it. I have it about 30 mins before my workout. The after my workout, I will have when isolate protein drink with some leucine mixed in. The before bed, some casein powder.