Juiced or Not? - Ausbb

Ben · 10-01-2010, 10:41 PM

YouTube - charley1616's Channel

18 years Old
210lbs
5'10

GHOSTrun · 11-01-2010, 12:03 AM

narh.............

Oli · 11-01-2010, 01:00 PM

He's 16 and could win the mr australia. what do you think?

Ben · 11-01-2010, 01:09 PM

Poll results so far 50% either way with 6 votes.

NPR, Vadernator and PTC, what do you guys think?

Joel · 11-01-2010, 01:22 PM

Why does it matter lol

Oli · 11-01-2010, 01:25 PM

Ben, there really isnt much of a question here.

The abilities of naturals are far below that of steroid users. Take 100% RAW for instance, one of the better drug tested feds around. In the 220lb class none of the lifters have gone far above 600 in the squat, 400 in the bench and some of them are scraping 700 in the deadlift - but the drugged russian teams are pulling 800 squats, 600 benches and 800 deadlifts totally raw.

For bodybuilding the difference isnt just mass, but the level of bodyfat they need to maintain it. If a natural wants any decent size (90-100kg) then they cant go below 8% bodyfat. Most natural bodybuilders end up looking like rugby players than bodybuilders.

Theres nothing wrong with these achievements - a person at 6', 100kg and 10% bodyfat with a 250/180/300 total is a ****ing BEAST, the kind that steps into a gym and will leave impressions on its members forever. But when it comes to the 110kg+ guys shredded on a magazine cover, take it with a grain of salt.

Bluey · 11-01-2010, 01:26 PM

shouldve called it assisted dumb bell press...

juiced to the gills.

Also he looks like 12yo in the face at the gym lol.

Ben · 11-01-2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerSports

Why does it matter lol

It doesn't.

A more appropriate/accurate question would be:

Is it possible for an 18 year old to look like this without the use of steroids?

Judging by the mixed results in the poll thus far, I will go by the more experienced/big lifters opinions.

Detailed post Oli, judging by your last paragraph you think he isn't using?

Oli · 11-01-2010, 01:56 PM

judging by my last paragraph he is. I dont think a 16 year old has the muscular maturity to put on that kind of size. also, that sorta size and bodyfat would require AT LEAST 3 solid years training, which I doubt hes had.

dr00 · 11-01-2010, 02:42 PM

id be willing to bet quite a decent amount of money that he is.

View Poll Results: Juiced or Not
Yes	27	67.50%
No	13	32.50%
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10-01-2010, 10:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ben Active Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,981	Juiced or Not? YouTube - charley1616's Channel 18 years Old 210lbs 5'10 Last edited by Ben; 10-01-2010 at 10:43 PM.

11-01-2010, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Oli Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle Gender: Posts: 3,000	He's 16 and could win the mr australia. what do you think? __________________ 5/3/1 Crew.

11-01-2010, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Oli Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle Gender: Posts: 3,000	Ben, there really isnt much of a question here. The abilities of naturals are far below that of steroid users. Take 100% RAW for instance, one of the better drug tested feds around. In the 220lb class none of the lifters have gone far above 600 in the squat, 400 in the bench and some of them are scraping 700 in the deadlift - but the drugged russian teams are pulling 800 squats, 600 benches and 800 deadlifts totally raw. For bodybuilding the difference isnt just mass, but the level of bodyfat they need to maintain it. If a natural wants any decent size (90-100kg) then they cant go below 8% bodyfat. Most natural bodybuilders end up looking like rugby players than bodybuilders. Theres nothing wrong with these achievements - a person at 6', 100kg and 10% bodyfat with a 250/180/300 total is a ****ing BEAST, the kind that steps into a gym and will leave impressions on its members forever. But when it comes to the 110kg+ guys shredded on a magazine cover, take it with a grain of salt. __________________ 5/3/1 Crew.

11-01-2010, 01:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bluey Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canberra, ACT Gender: Posts: 319	shouldve called it assisted dumb bell press... juiced to the gills. Also he looks like 12yo in the face at the gym lol. __________________ Lifts: Deadlift: 260kg Squat: 215kg Powerclean: 115kg Bench: 125kg Overhead 100kg at 128kg bw RAW.

11-01-2010, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
GHOSTrun Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Gender: Posts: 788	narh.............

11-01-2010, 01:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ben Active Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,981	Poll results so far 50% either way with 6 votes. NPR, Vadernator and PTC, what do you guys think?

11-01-2010, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Joel Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Gender: Posts: 3,596	Why does it matter lol

11-01-2010, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Oli Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle Gender: Posts: 3,000	judging by my last paragraph he is. I dont think a 16 year old has the muscular maturity to put on that kind of size. also, that sorta size and bodyfat would require AT LEAST 3 solid years training, which I doubt hes had. __________________ 5/3/1 Crew.

11-01-2010, 02:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
dr00 Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Perth Gender: Posts: 323	id be willing to bet quite a decent amount of money that he is.