Fadi

Yes most definitely creatine has a role to play in the sport of bodybuilding and I only started using it in 2009, after 29 years of training. Creatine is one hell of a muscle cell hydrator, that is to say it's a master in loading your muscles with water and we all know that water, intracellular fluid (or cytoplasmic matrix) = strength! That is one reason I do not recommend anyone taking creatine before working out but rather after instead. To do otherwise would be like advising someone to have pasta before working out because carbohydrates are great for loading the muscles with glycogen. What has been forgotten here is the time factor. This type of chemical reactions (where supercompensation is involved) takes time and by that I mean days instead of hours.

So to take creatine just before working out and hope that it would get into the muscle cells to do its thing is like believing that that carbohydrate meal you’ve just head for lunch is going to somehow magically fuel your afternoon or evening workout; I don't think so!


Fadi.

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patterson

Very interesting fadi. Muscletech claim nanovapor goes straight into your muscles but all I ever got from it was a massive caffenie crash.
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Fadi

I always laugh when I see the claims that are made by some companies regarding the energy we would derive from taking in their product; when I see the word caffeine! I say take the caffeine out then we'll talk with sincerity. Until then, caffeine is the major player as far as I'm concerned.


Fadi.

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patterson

Its funny how they add caffeine to products that are meant to helpw ith muscle growth!

Fadi

You'd be surprised Guache as to the way most bodybuilders think (or don't ). To most, it's about having a great workout with balls to the wall intensity. we can talk about that but that's not where my beef is right now. My issue is with that bodybuilder who simply does not care how he derives his energy and/or where does his energy come from to fuel such a high intensity workout.

Fatiguin what is already fatigued, as in the adrenal glands, will sooner or later come bite you up the back side. In fact this phenomena is already playing havoc in the bodybuilding world if only bodybuilders realise. But no, all you ever hear is the following statemnet: "I train like a madman and I force myself to eat all my food...so why am I not growing or gaining in strength?" Sound familiar Gauch, have you heard something similar?

My answer is because you have not trained with high intensity in a ligitamte way but more so in an arteficialy stimulated way, or rather a forced adrenaline stimulation way. It's one thing to walk into that gym after a good night sleep and a tranquil mind, and quite another to have had a shocking night sleep (I wonder why!!!) and a mind that is always full of anxiety, to then abuse what has already giving you a hint a hundred times over that "we've had enough being pushed around. Give us a break and let us do things naturally please." These were your adrenal glands talking no, screaming MERCY PLEASE!

Back to that bodybuilder who is supposedly doing everything right yet not adding any muscle gains to match his "hard work and top effort". You see Gauche, your adrenal glands are more than capable in regulating cortisol's release, but how can they when they have had enough abuse with caffeine and stressful living (or having a bodybuilder whose attitude knows not how to deal with life's stresses situation rather), how can they stop cortisol from munching on your hard earned muscles let alone leave you alone to grow new ones?!

Something to make one pause and reflect upon, wouldn't you agree my young friend?


Fadi.

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Squat 200kg, FSquat 195kg, C&J 160kg, PC 140kg, MP 90kg.

Fadi

You'd be surprised Gauche as to the way most bodybuilders think (or don’t). To most, it's about having a great workout with balls to the wall intensity. We can talk about that but that's not where my beef is right now. My issue is with that bodybuilder who simply does not care how he derives his energy and/or where does his energy come from to fuel such a high intensity workout.

Fatiguing what is already fatigued, as in the adrenal glands, will sooner or later come to bite you up the back side. In fact this phenomenon is already playing havoc in the bodybuilding world if only bodybuilders realise. But no, all you ever hear is the following statement: "I train like a madman and I force myself to eat all my food...so why am I not growing or gaining in strength?" Sound familiar Gauche, have you heard something similar?

My answer is because you have not trained with high intensity in a legitimate way but more so in an artificially stimulated way, or rather a forced adrenaline stimulated way. It's one thing to walk into that gym after a good night sleep and a tranquil mind, and quite another to have had a shocking night sleep (I wonder why!!!) and a mind that is always full of anxiety, to then abuse what has already giving you a hint a hundred times over that "we've had enough being pushed around. Give us a break and let us do things naturally please." These were your adrenal glands talking no, make that screaming “MERCY PLEASE”!

Back to that bodybuilder who is supposedly doing everything right yet not adding any muscles to match his "hard work and top effort". You see Gauche, your adrenal glands are more than capable in regulating cortisol release, but how can they when they have had enough abuse with caffeine and stressful living (or having a bodybuilder whose attitude knows not how to deal with life's stresses rather); how can they stop cortisol from munching on your hard earned muscles let alone leave you alone to grow new ones?!

Something to make one pause and reflect upon, wouldn't you agree my young friend?


Fadi.

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Squat 200kg, FSquat 195kg, C&J 160kg, PC 140kg, MP 90kg.

patterson

Most certainly fadi. It's not only the muscle building that I look to change. I woke up this morning when my alarm went off... No snoozing. I feel like I'm ready for the day ahead and I can't wait to hit that gym room tonight. It never occured to me caffeine was responsible for feeling like that.

In the body building scene most of us look up to people who abuse these basic health guidelines to cheat their way to the top, whatever the expense. I have certainly never come across a forum or group of people so set on doing things the healthy way and it truley is inspiring. Fadi as long as you don't tell me to give up sex my ears are open to you!!
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Fadi

On the contrary Gauche, sex is health generating...as long as it is healthy sex.


Fadi.

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patterson

Haha good stuff!
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minithemeezer

I suspect there would have been an electronic riot if anyone had dared say give up sex!