Orders in which exercises should be done? - Page 2 - Ausbb

gents.bond · 14-06-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dave

With starting strength there should not be so much volume in it that your back is in trouble, if you are finding that so then you obviously have a erector problem (weakness, injury).

well as i mentioned above... so far there is no problems with the press but as its a new movement for me .. i have never done presses in my life before ( i started 3 weeks ago) so still getting use to the movement. And i reckon my back is perhaps my strongest body part after legs!!

dave · 14-06-2010, 11:19 PM

Then you won't have a problem, do not worry about it and just do the program as rippetoe states it he is a better coach than me.

gents.bond · 14-06-2010, 11:23 PM

cool, well u r providing me more help so u r definitely better coach for me than Mark Rippetoe!! lol!

dave · 14-06-2010, 11:25 PM

I am just reinforcing his points, you should read his book its pretty good at explaining the lifts and his training system.

gents.bond · 14-06-2010, 11:30 PM

yeah Oliver strongly recommended me his book and dvd .. i got both .. certainly i m progressing .. intially i was doing squat with 140 with 3X5 sets .. but my depth for squat was barely parallel to the floor .. now i m doing full squat (hams touching calves) so the weights have dropped but i i feel more stronger now!!! his dvd is very informative and the book .. oh thats encyclopaedia of these main lifts!!

Oli · 15-06-2010, 02:31 AM

Gents,

Squat comes first because its generally the most taxing. A press is next because it breaks up the squat and deadlift (or power clean) which use a lot of the same muscles.

As the other guys said, usually cleans come first but as the power clean isnt the most complicated exercise I wouldnt worry.

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Originally Posted by gents.bond

yeah Oliver strongly recommended me his book and dvd .. i got both .. certainly i m progressing .. intially i was doing squat with 140 with 3X5 sets .. but my depth for squat was barely parallel to the floor .. now i m doing full squat (hams touching calves) so the weights have dropped but i i feel more stronger now!!! his dvd is very informative and the book .. oh thats encyclopaedia of these main lifts!!

Its a great book, its really good to see people reading it. I've not heard a negative review yet.

Fadi · 15-06-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver04

Gents,

Squat comes first because its generally the most taxing.

Oli, as far as I am concerned, I find the cleans to be most taxing of all movements (apart from the C&J of course). Here you have the pull and the front squat in one complete explosive movement. Squats is something a weightlifter looks forward to for some relaxation (or at least I did [could be my 5'4 frame]).

Sorry if you meant something else by your answer Oli or was actually answering someone's point in particular. In that case, please disregard what I wrote.

Fadi.

Oli · 15-06-2010, 03:35 AM

Fadi,

Rip wrote the program with the focus on building the slow lifts (the squat, bench, press and deadlift) which he considered to have the most carryover to athletic activity. Of these he stressed the importance of building the squat the most central of the movements.

I'd agree that cleans and snatches are way more taxing and require as little fatigue as possible, but if the main purpose is to build the slow lifts I dont think they should come first. Also, Rip uses the power clean rather than a full clean as his main exercise which is the less technical lift.

Horses for courses. I dont think the world would end if he cleaned first, but the program has more of a slow lift focus and is designed to give a break between lower body exercises.

dont mean to call you out fadi ><

NPR · 15-06-2010, 02:20 PM

As I said it really does not matter one bit. His effort in the gym, technique, food and sleep are much more important things to worry about.
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AndyMitchell · 15-06-2010, 02:31 PM

I'd be doing PC's on a seperate day.
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15-06-2010, 03:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
Oli Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle Gender: Posts: 3,000	Fadi, Rip wrote the program with the focus on building the slow lifts (the squat, bench, press and deadlift) which he considered to have the most carryover to athletic activity. Of these he stressed the importance of building the squat the most central of the movements. I'd agree that cleans and snatches are way more taxing and require as little fatigue as possible, but if the main purpose is to build the slow lifts I dont think they should come first. Also, Rip uses the power clean rather than a full clean as his main exercise which is the less technical lift. Horses for courses. I dont think the world would end if he cleaned first, but the program has more of a slow lift focus and is designed to give a break between lower body exercises. dont mean to call you out fadi >< __________________ 5/3/1 Crew.

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NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	As I said it really does not matter one bit. His effort in the gym, technique, food and sleep are much more important things to worry about. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

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AndyMitchell Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: As close as the restraining order allows Gender: Posts: 3,104	I'd be doing PC's on a seperate day. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ as long as you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to keep getting what you're getting.

14-06-2010, 11:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
dave Active Member July10MOTM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Gender: Posts: 4,803	Then you won't have a problem, do not worry about it and just do the program as rippetoe states it he is a better coach than me.

14-06-2010, 11:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
gents.bond Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 88	cool, well u r providing me more help so u r definitely better coach for me than Mark Rippetoe!! lol!

14-06-2010, 11:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
dave Active Member July10MOTM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Gender: Posts: 4,803	I am just reinforcing his points, you should read his book its pretty good at explaining the lifts and his training system.

14-06-2010, 11:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
gents.bond Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 88	yeah Oliver strongly recommended me his book and dvd .. i got both .. certainly i m progressing .. intially i was doing squat with 140 with 3X5 sets .. but my depth for squat was barely parallel to the floor .. now i m doing full squat (hams touching calves) so the weights have dropped but i i feel more stronger now!!! his dvd is very informative and the book .. oh thats encyclopaedia of these main lifts!!