Orders in which exercises should be done? - Page 3 - Ausbb

Oli · 15-06-2010, 04:00 PM

Guys, if the coach says something you really shouldnt **** with the program and make it your own.

If you were doing PPP would you leave squats til last and do power cleans instead?

this is a slow lift program which is built around the squat. even if it only adds 0.0025kgs more to the squat (which would make it more than worth it imo) it should be left as is.

wannabstrong · 15-06-2010, 04:01 PM

hang on are people doing 3 sets of something eg presses one after the other. i thought you had to do one set of something then one set something until you finally got to 3 sets of everything.
eg. 1x8 squat
1x8 press
1x8 bench
1x8 squat

etc etc until 3 sets are complete

dave · 15-06-2010, 04:09 PM

3 sets of one exercise at a time... but you can do whatever takes your fancy if your really want to.

Oli · 15-06-2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannabstrong

hang on are people doing 3 sets of something eg presses one after the other. i thought you had to do one set of something then one set something until you finally got to 3 sets of everything.
eg. 1x8 squat
1x8 press
1x8 bench
1x8 squat

etc etc until 3 sets are complete

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=13263177#post13263177

AndyMitchell · 15-06-2010, 04:26 PM

Don't always believe what you think.

Nobody is right/ nobody is wrong... Try it, if it doesn't work try something else, keep what works, chuck what doesn't.

This is what it's all about folks, don't just blindly follow some routine, whether it's pendlays, ripp's, markos or whatever.
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Grippy · 15-06-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverback

Don't always believe what you think.

Nobody is right/ nobody is wrong... Try it, if it doesn't work try something, keep what work, chuck what doesn't.

This is what it's all about folks, don't just blindly follow some routine, whether it's pendlays, ripp's, markos or whatever.
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Too true, everyone is different, its whatever works for you

strong enough? · 16-06-2010, 01:47 PM

There is no one size fits all program. Programs are specific to goals. Exercises can serve different purposes depending on what your goals are.

The reason why Rip has power cleans last is that their role in the program is essentially as an assistance exercise for deadlift. You are not so much training the clean, as cleaning to train the deadlift. The pressing in between squats is to give some recovery before the cleans.

There is no reason you can't swap things around if that serves your purposes. Squatting first or squatting last can be both be good.

My program has the heavy squat day shared with heavy bench day. Squats go last. This is a killer, but it works for us for 2 important reasons: (1) it's a powerlifting program. Squats come first in competition and are really important to set a good total. By training squats last, you feel you really fresh for the squats when you compete; and (2) if you bench heavy after heavy squats, you feel totally wiped and your shoulders are wrecked. Squatting after benching actually helps me stretch out the chest/shoulder area.

AndyMitchell · 16-06-2010, 02:22 PM

I have always barbell pressed before barbell squatting.
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PTC · 16-06-2010, 04:50 PM

The theory I use at PTC is:

We lift in the same order we compete in - SQ - BP - DL

We also make sure we train at the same time we compete, around 11.00am, which is why Saturday sessions are important, as most people lift from 6.00pm onwards.

Its very different lifting before lunch.

All of this can be easily overcome though, Kelly and Nico never lift on Saturday mornings and they went okay.

Strong is strong.

strong enough? · 16-06-2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTC

Its very different lifting before lunch.

Quoted for truth.

15-06-2010, 04:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
Oli Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle Gender: Posts: 3,000	Guys, if the coach says something you really shouldnt **** with the program and make it your own. If you were doing PPP would you leave squats til last and do power cleans instead? this is a slow lift program which is built around the squat. even if it only adds 0.0025kgs more to the squat (which would make it more than worth it imo) it should be left as is. __________________ 5/3/1 Crew.

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wannabstrong Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: westside of brizburn Gender: Posts: 146	hang on are people doing 3 sets of something eg presses one after the other. i thought you had to do one set of something then one set something until you finally got to 3 sets of everything. eg. 1x8 squat 1x8 press 1x8 bench 1x8 squat etc etc until 3 sets are complete __________________ The 2 Greatest warriors are Time and Patience Your Nobody till Somebody Kills You

15-06-2010, 04:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
AndyMitchell Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: As close as the restraining order allows Gender: Posts: 3,104	Don't always believe what you think. Nobody is right/ nobody is wrong... Try it, if it doesn't work try something else, keep what works, chuck what doesn't. This is what it's all about folks, don't just blindly follow some routine, whether it's pendlays, ripp's, markos or whatever. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ as long as you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to keep getting what you're getting. Last edited by AndyMitchell; 16-06-2010 at 10:54 AM.

16-06-2010, 02:22 PM	#28 (permalink)
AndyMitchell Active Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: As close as the restraining order allows Gender: Posts: 3,104	I have always barbell pressed before barbell squatting. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ as long as you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to keep getting what you're getting.

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dave Active Member July10MOTM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Gender: Posts: 4,803	3 sets of one exercise at a time... but you can do whatever takes your fancy if your really want to.

16-06-2010, 01:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
strong enough? Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Gender: Posts: 284	There is no one size fits all program. Programs are specific to goals. Exercises can serve different purposes depending on what your goals are. The reason why Rip has power cleans last is that their role in the program is essentially as an assistance exercise for deadlift. You are not so much training the clean, as cleaning to train the deadlift. The pressing in between squats is to give some recovery before the cleans. There is no reason you can't swap things around if that serves your purposes. Squatting first or squatting last can be both be good. My program has the heavy squat day shared with heavy bench day. Squats go last. This is a killer, but it works for us for 2 important reasons: (1) it's a powerlifting program. Squats come first in competition and are really important to set a good total. By training squats last, you feel you really fresh for the squats when you compete; and (2) if you bench heavy after heavy squats, you feel totally wiped and your shoulders are wrecked. Squatting after benching actually helps me stretch out the chest/shoulder area.

16-06-2010, 04:50 PM	#29 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	The theory I use at PTC is: We lift in the same order we compete in - SQ - BP - DL We also make sure we train at the same time we compete, around 11.00am, which is why Saturday sessions are important, as most people lift from 6.00pm onwards. Its very different lifting before lunch. All of this can be easily overcome though, Kelly and Nico never lift on Saturday mornings and they went okay. Strong is strong.