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22-09-2009, 12:10 AM

Have this every morning Morgan.

500ml full cream milk
1.5 scoops protein (45g)
100g Oats
1 banana
1 TBLSP of honey

This is ~1000 cals, ~80g protein can't remember the carbs or fats.

4L of full cream milk = 2500 cals. Drink that each day and still eat your usual meals and you WILL put on mass.

Kyle Aaron · 22-09-2009, 12:20 AM

Though if you're going to drink 4lt of milk a day, build up to it. 1lt/day in the first week, 2lt/day in the second, 3lt/day in the third, and 4lt/day in the fourth. Otherwise you will not feel very good, I speak from past experience

If you're having that amount, for the sake of your wallet I would buy full cream or skim milk powder, much cheaper, and easier to consume (eg the powder you'd put in to make 1lt of milk you can have in 250ml of water instead).

hyjak · 22-09-2009, 12:28 AM

4L of fresh milk is only 5-6 bucks a day, less than a meal from maccas and it'll last all day. most people i work with spend $10-20 a day on lunch alone.

edit: i pay $1.10 per litre so 4L will only cost you $4.40 a day, stay away from skim milk you want the fat too.

milk = bang for your buck

Kyle Aaron · 22-09-2009, 01:20 AM

Yep, milk is definitely good bang for your buck in bulking. I just mentioned that the powder was cheaper because we don't know anything about morgan7, he could be a skint student or about to get married or something and every $ counts for him, not like the idiots blowing $15 at lunch every day.

hyjak · 22-09-2009, 10:47 AM

yeah definitely. i was using skim milk for my pre workout shake and i ended up changing to skim milk powder as its cheaper and lasts longer when opened.

morgan7 · 24-09-2009, 08:37 PM

Unfortunately I have very limited amounts of dairy,
because I was always blowing my nose when I was
having dairy. I just drink soy and rice milk now. So
that sort of rules out the milk idea.

Kyle Aaron · 24-09-2009, 09:20 PM

Interesting. Try the skim milk powder instead, you may find that better.

Failing that, soy and rice milk are fine. The main reason milk is recommended is that it's a cheap, easy way to consume and digest a lot of calories, carbs, fat and protein quickly. A litre of milk is about 600kcal, 32g protein, 33g fat, and 51g carbs. That's like 150g of steak with a dab of garlic butter and a cup of vegies and cup of spuds. The milk is cheaper than all that, quicker to prepare and knock back, but if it doesn't agree with you, then have the steak, butter, spuds and vegies

PowerBuilder · 24-09-2009, 09:34 PM

if you 'eat a lot' when bulking & your not gaining size you either need to get a new hobby or eat some more.

i fail to see how increasing your calories wont give you mass. That said, i highly recommend not over eating. Yeah, hey i just said 2 opposites. There's a big difference between eating slightly over what you need to exceed maintenance....and having 1500 extra calories that go straight to either your hip, butt or gut

hyjak · 24-09-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Aaron

Failing that, soy and rice milk are fine.

doesnt soy milk give you titties?

SubCom · 24-09-2009, 09:49 PM

skip soy milk. soy promotes estrogen production.

Eat oat milk or rice milk. Same price as Soy but better for muscle growth esp. oat milk whcih is full of protein.

22-09-2009, 12:20 AM	#22 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Though if you're going to drink 4lt of milk a day, build up to it. 1lt/day in the first week, 2lt/day in the second, 3lt/day in the third, and 4lt/day in the fourth. Otherwise you will not feel very good, I speak from past experience If you're having that amount, for the sake of your wallet I would buy full cream or skim milk powder, much cheaper, and easier to consume (eg the powder you'd put in to make 1lt of milk you can have in 250ml of water instead). __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

22-09-2009, 12:28 AM	#23 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,876	4L of fresh milk is only 5-6 bucks a day, less than a meal from maccas and it'll last all day. most people i work with spend $10-20 a day on lunch alone. edit: i pay $1.10 per litre so 4L will only cost you $4.40 a day, stay away from skim milk you want the fat too. milk = bang for your buck __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups Last edited by hyjak; 22-09-2009 at 01:07 AM.

22-09-2009, 01:20 AM	#24 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Yep, milk is definitely good bang for your buck in bulking. I just mentioned that the powder was cheaper because we don't know anything about morgan7, he could be a skint student or about to get married or something and every $ counts for him, not like the idiots blowing $15 at lunch every day. __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

22-09-2009, 10:47 AM	#25 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,876	yeah definitely. i was using skim milk for my pre workout shake and i ended up changing to skim milk powder as its cheaper and lasts longer when opened. __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups

24-09-2009, 09:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Interesting. Try the skim milk powder instead, you may find that better. Failing that, soy and rice milk are fine. The main reason milk is recommended is that it's a cheap, easy way to consume and digest a lot of calories, carbs, fat and protein quickly. A litre of milk is about 600kcal, 32g protein, 33g fat, and 51g carbs. That's like 150g of steak with a dab of garlic butter and a cup of vegies and cup of spuds. The milk is cheaper than all that, quicker to prepare and knock back, but if it doesn't agree with you, then have the steak, butter, spuds and vegies __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

22-09-2009, 12:10 AM	#21 (permalink)
Josh_GTiR Guest Posts: n/a	Have this every morning Morgan. 500ml full cream milk 1.5 scoops protein (45g) 100g Oats 1 banana 1 TBLSP of honey This is ~1000 cals, ~80g protein can't remember the carbs or fats. 4L of full cream milk = 2500 cals. Drink that each day and still eat your usual meals and you WILL put on mass.

24-09-2009, 08:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
morgan7 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Posts: 11	Unfortunately I have very limited amounts of dairy, because I was always blowing my nose when I was having dairy. I just drink soy and rice milk now. So that sort of rules out the milk idea.

24-09-2009, 09:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
PowerBuilder Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Gender: Posts: 2,161	if you 'eat a lot' when bulking & your not gaining size you either need to get a new hobby or eat some more. i fail to see how increasing your calories wont give you mass. That said, i highly recommend not over eating. Yeah, hey i just said 2 opposites. There's a big difference between eating slightly over what you need to exceed maintenance....and having 1500 extra calories that go straight to either your hip, butt or gut

24-09-2009, 09:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
SubCom Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 110	skip soy milk. soy promotes estrogen production. Eat oat milk or rice milk. Same price as Soy but better for muscle growth esp. oat milk whcih is full of protein.