[Article] Building the ultimate muscle machine: move your body through space. Program #1. - Page 3 - Ausbb

Fadi · 01-11-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hulk

This is a common comment which I think is misleading.
Most of the gymnasts we see with well built bodies are world class competitiors.
Most regular gymnasts are quite thin and lightweight as far as I've seen.
So if you look at natural elite strength trainers or bodybuilders, they would likely be equally or better built with less time training.

As Rob has pointed out, these gymnasts do not use weights to build muscles but rely on lifting their own body weights. Now a bodybuilder can learn a lot from that. That is, if a bodybuilder adds an element of progressive overload whilst moving his body through space, he will gain a tremendous amount of muscles and strength.

The only reason the novice gymnast is not big (yet) is because he has not logged up the hours his world class counterpart has. It's all about frequency/volume here.

Fadi.

Fadi · 01-11-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vader-nator

IMO Pre Ex is not a sin.
This seems to be working.

Thanks

Rob

The sin is when you know about a tool that will save your joints whilst at the same time helping you maintain intensity and you don't use it...then it becomes a sin. I'm with you 100% Rob, well done Tiger.

Fadi.

vader-nator · 02-11-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote Fadi
The sin is when you know about a tool that will save your joints whilst at the same time helping you maintain intensity and you don't use it...then it becomes a sin. I'm with you 100% Rob, well done Tiger.

Fadi.
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Thanks Bud!!

raphsta · 05-11-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fadi

This program will not only increase your strength and build functional muscles, but will insure that muscles built here are of the dense and permanent type. By that I’m talking about muscles getting built through the myofibrillar and not through the Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy pathway. Please check page #50 for more information if you wish.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=QWSn4iKgNo8C&dq=Kraemer,+William+J.%3B+Za tsiorsky,+Vladimir+M.+(2006).+Science+and+practice +of+strength+training+book&printsec=frontcover&sou rce=bn&hl=en&ei=0N_VSr6GI86GkQXt0MmADg&sa=X&oi=boo k_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAw#v=onep age&q=&f=false

Interesting.. I have been wondering lately about the difference in muscle size increase vs density increase..
Not that reading part of that book made any sense to me

- I'll have to investigate a bit further into what makes muscles more dense.

litebulb · 05-11-2009, 10:05 PM

This program looks like it shreds!

Fadi, would you recommend this regime for bulking (in conjunction with a bulking diet)?

Fadi · 06-11-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by litebulb

This program looks like it shreds!

Fadi, would you recommend this regime for bulking (in conjunction with a bulking diet)?

Litebulb (have you told me your name? I must be getting old here

); yes this program works both ways depending on what you feed the beast. Eat like a sparrow and you'll most certainly be known as the shredder. Eat like a Tiger and stripes won't be the only marks you'll be known by!

Have I answered your question? It's "diet" dependenet; period!

Fadi.

Fadi · 06-11-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by raphsta

Interesting.. I have been wondering lately about the difference in muscle size increase vs density increase..
Not that reading part of that book made any sense to me

- I'll have to investigate a bit further into what makes muscles more dense.

No need to understand the technicalities Raphael. I've just lost 15kg of muscles but kept 15kg also. Which one do you think I've lost and which ones do you think I've kept?

Began weightlifting at 15 weighing 60kg.
Stopped weightlifting at 18 1/2 weighing 75kg
Began bodybuilding weighing 75kg
Finished bodybuilding weighing 90kg
Stopped bodybuilding and am back to 75kg!

Keep in mind I was around 10% body fat mass when weightlifting, unlike some weightlifters at 20%+.

Fadi.

06-11-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy

Some people can't because they are using more weight, I can do 75kg pull downs 4 to 6 reps but can't do 2 pull ups because I weigh 95kg.

when i weighed 68kg i could do 25kg lat pull down for 8-10 reps but thats not even worth talking about anymore pull ups or nothing!

09-11-2009, 05:25 PM

i meant 75kg oops

raphsta · 09-11-2009, 06:53 PM

haha.. I read that, and thought, wow, you've come a long way from a 25kg lat pulldown!

05-11-2009, 10:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
litebulb Rookie Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Posts: 47	This program looks like it shreds! Fadi, would you recommend this regime for bulking (in conjunction with a bulking diet)? __________________ Henry Rollins on "The Iron" http://www.gittlen.com/rollins.htm

02-11-2009, 07:45 PM	#23 (permalink)
vader-nator Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Gender: Posts: 309	Quote Fadi The sin is when you know about a tool that will save your joints whilst at the same time helping you maintain intensity and you don't use it...then it becomes a sin. I'm with you 100% Rob, well done Tiger. Fadi. ______________ Thanks Bud!!

09-11-2009, 05:25 PM	#29 (permalink)
ChrisOX Guest Posts: n/a	i meant 75kg oops

09-11-2009, 06:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
raphsta Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 120	haha.. I read that, and thought, wow, you've come a long way from a 25kg lat pulldown!