100m, 200m, 400m - Ausbb

**The Hulk** · 04-03-2010, 02:00 PM

I just thought I might keep a log here for some of my sprint times.
Never been a runner, got ok results at those high school athletics carinvals, but always wanted to do better.
Never had the opportunity to train in those days and wish I had so I could see my real potential.
I often have dreams that I'm back in high school and the athletics carnival is only a couple of weeks away and I had not trained for it, but had every opportunity to, and won't be able to perform at my best, sort of like missed opportunities from the past.
Well, almost 20 years later (35 years old now), and about 20kg heavier (much stronger), I want to get that feeling back.

So I'm planning on doing some running at my local track in the mornings and just want to improve my times, it's a fitness/cardio thing too.
Will probably do a mix of 100m, 200m and 400m and just try to keep improving over however long I stay interested or motivated.

Going into this totally untrained for running, except did a 2.4km run earlier this week just as a test, and this sparked my interest to try out the shorter distances.

Thursday 4th March, 2010
400m - 1 minute 5 secs.

Slow time but got to start somewhere, absolutely died in the final 100m.
The pros do it in 44 seconds!
Quads started aching halfway through the run and calves got smashed.
Calves have been aching all day now, they really got smashed just from 1 lap of the track.

Will try the 200m next time when my legs recover a bit.

Fadi · 05-03-2010, 03:21 AM

Okay Hulk, what would you give me if I shaved 10 seconds off your 400m time within a week

?

Take 4-6g of beta-alanine on an empty stomach spread out throughout the day, with 1g intake about 30 minutes before the run. Psssst, don't tell anyone I told you that okay

!

All the best speedy.

PS: You may (will) get pins and needles on your face, hands, and back because of the BA...it's quite normal.

Fadi.

katie · 05-03-2010, 09:46 AM

Good work Hulk!

I played 1 hr of basketball for the first time in a couple of weeks and my calves are smashed too. Why is that, I wonder?

**The Hulk** · 05-03-2010, 12:47 PM

Fadi, will that seriously work?

What if I just take it 1/2 hour before my run, as I run 1st thing in the morning, will it still have a positive effect?

If you take too much for too long, will you not become resistant to the beta-alanine?

If this really works, would it work for professional athletes too, do they use this technique?

How does it work?

If I use this supplement for a while and improve my results, will my results then suffer if I stop using it, or if it stops being effective?

Thanks Master Fadi.

Katie, I think the calves get hit hard from the explosive movements of short sprints and jumping, especially at multiple angles.

katie · 05-03-2010, 01:10 PM

Thanks Hulk. I've never been able to get soreness in calves before - even with weight training, calf raises, etc etc - I was surprised that basketball could do it for me! (Not to mention that my upper body is a bit sore too... you wouldn't have ever guessed basketball is that much of a workout for the upper body!)

**The Hulk** · 05-03-2010, 02:20 PM

Yeah, my upper is sore too from yesterdays run.
The sides of my ribs are really, really sore.
You would probably get soreness in all different parts of your body from rock climbing.

I tried jiu jitsu/grappling a couple of times and that made me really sore too, in all different places, more sore than any weights training has done.

It's a good change up from just regular weights training for me.

Will · 05-03-2010, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie

Thanks Hulk. I've never been able to get soreness in calves before - even with weight training, calf raises, etc etc - I was surprised that basketball could do it for me! (Not to mention that my upper body is a bit sore too... you wouldn't have ever guessed basketball is that much of a workout for the upper body!)

Are you sure it was your calves and not your bones? As i'd imagine all that jumping and pivoting would put quite a lot of stress on the bones in that area?

apiewithhoboliftingaroma · 05-03-2010, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fadi

Okay Hulk, what would you give me if I shaved 10 seconds off your 400m time within a week

?

Take 4-6g of beta-alanine on an empty stomach spread out throughout the day, with 1g intake about 30 minutes before the run. Psssst, don't tell anyone I told you that okay

!

All the best speedy.

PS: You may (will) get pins and needles on your face, hands, and back because of the BA...it's quite normal.

Fadi.

Fadi, do you mean for e.g. 3 lots of 5g consumptions throughout the day and then one single 1g consumption 30 minutes before the run?

Or do you me 5g spread throughout the day so 3 lots of approx. 2g consumptions and then a single 1g consumption 30 minutes before the run?

katie · 05-03-2010, 09:19 PM

Definitely the calf muscles Will! A good foam roller massage is bliss on the muscles

I attribute it to not having played bball for about 3 weeks when the season break was on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will

Are you sure it was your calves and not your bones? As i'd imagine all that jumping and pivoting would put quite a lot of stress on the bones in that area?

**The Hulk** · 05-03-2010, 09:29 PM

Definately calf muscles sore for me too.
Funny thing is it was in an area I have never had sore before:

Actually, according to this pic it is the achilles tendon as shown which is sore for me, not the calf muscles, is this bad?
It's the whole achilles tendon as shown towards the top which is sore, not near the ankles.
It actually feels like muscles there, not hard tendons.

Is this bad to be sore there?
It's not a sharp pain, just feels like really bad doms.

04-03-2010, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Hulk Active Member Site Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 2,092	100m, 200m, 400m I just thought I might keep a log here for some of my sprint times. Never been a runner, got ok results at those high school athletics carinvals, but always wanted to do better. Never had the opportunity to train in those days and wish I had so I could see my real potential. I often have dreams that I'm back in high school and the athletics carnival is only a couple of weeks away and I had not trained for it, but had every opportunity to, and won't be able to perform at my best, sort of like missed opportunities from the past. Well, almost 20 years later (35 years old now), and about 20kg heavier (much stronger), I want to get that feeling back. So I'm planning on doing some running at my local track in the mornings and just want to improve my times, it's a fitness/cardio thing too. Will probably do a mix of 100m, 200m and 400m and just try to keep improving over however long I stay interested or motivated. Going into this totally untrained for running, except did a 2.4km run earlier this week just as a test, and this sparked my interest to try out the shorter distances. Thursday 4th March, 2010 400m - 1 minute 5 secs. Slow time but got to start somewhere, absolutely died in the final 100m. The pros do it in 44 seconds! Quads started aching halfway through the run and calves got smashed. Calves have been aching all day now, they really got smashed just from 1 lap of the track. Will try the 200m next time when my legs recover a bit. Last edited by The Hulk; 04-03-2010 at 02:04 PM.

05-03-2010, 03:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Fadi Super Moderator Ausbb's resident Yoda Join Date: Jul 2009 Gender: Posts: 3,414	Okay Hulk, what would you give me if I shaved 10 seconds off your 400m time within a week ? Take 4-6g of beta-alanine on an empty stomach spread out throughout the day, with 1g intake about 30 minutes before the run. Psssst, don't tell anyone I told you that okay ! All the best speedy. PS: You may (will) get pins and needles on your face, hands, and back because of the BA...it's quite normal. Fadi. __________________ Squat 200kg, FSquat 195kg, C&J 160kg, PC 140kg, MP 90kg.

05-03-2010, 09:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
katie Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,130	Good work Hulk! I played 1 hr of basketball for the first time in a couple of weeks and my calves are smashed too. Why is that, I wonder? __________________ Rock climbing since 2005; running and resistance training since May 2009

05-03-2010, 01:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
katie Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,130	Thanks Hulk. I've never been able to get soreness in calves before - even with weight training, calf raises, etc etc - I was surprised that basketball could do it for me! (Not to mention that my upper body is a bit sore too... you wouldn't have ever guessed basketball is that much of a workout for the upper body!) __________________ Rock climbing since 2005; running and resistance training since May 2009

05-03-2010, 02:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
The Hulk Active Member Site Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 2,092	Yeah, my upper is sore too from yesterdays run. The sides of my ribs are really, really sore. You would probably get soreness in all different parts of your body from rock climbing. I tried jiu jitsu/grappling a couple of times and that made me really sore too, in all different places, more sore than any weights training has done. It's a good change up from just regular weights training for me. Last edited by The Hulk; 05-03-2010 at 02:23 PM.

05-03-2010, 12:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Hulk Active Member Site Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 2,092	Fadi, will that seriously work? What if I just take it 1/2 hour before my run, as I run 1st thing in the morning, will it still have a positive effect? If you take too much for too long, will you not become resistant to the beta-alanine? If this really works, would it work for professional athletes too, do they use this technique? How does it work? If I use this supplement for a while and improve my results, will my results then suffer if I stop using it, or if it stops being effective? Thanks Master Fadi. Katie, I think the calves get hit hard from the explosive movements of short sprints and jumping, especially at multiple angles.

05-03-2010, 09:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
The Hulk Active Member Site Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 2,092	Definately calf muscles sore for me too. Funny thing is it was in an area I have never had sore before: Actually, according to this pic it is the achilles tendon as shown which is sore for me, not the calf muscles, is this bad? It's the whole achilles tendon as shown towards the top which is sore, not near the ankles. It actually feels like muscles there, not hard tendons. Is this bad to be sore there? It's not a sharp pain, just feels like really bad doms.