Depression and working out - Page 2 - Ausbb

Kyle Aaron · 26-06-2009, 05:48 PM

Stands to reason it would.

Modo, go to a counsellor and stick with that person. That's all I have to say to you.

katie · 26-06-2009, 05:48 PM

I'm thinking "maybe". A depressed person is probably more stressed about things (I tend to become v. anxious), leading to higher levels of cortisol in the blood, which makes it harder to gain muscle. I don't know how strong this effect is though.

modo · 26-06-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Aaron

Modo, go to a counsellor and stick with that person. That's all I have to say to you.

if i could find one i could get into for more then 3-5 sessions i would believe me!

Shrek · 26-06-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by katie

(off-topic, but your signature is hilarious)

Yeah Kindred, it's pretty funny, is it true

26-06-2009, 09:44 PM

I don`t know that you are suffering from depression.
Being depressed and having depression are very different.Having gone through
about 8 months (8 total, 12 months on and off) of depression after my divorce I can tell you first hand they are different.And then clinical depression is another level altogether.
If Timguy is still around? he can correct me if I`m wrong and enlighten us more if I am on the right track (he studies in that field).
You are probably physically and mentally burnt out and all the little daily stressors are magnified making you feel down and then the whole negativeness follows.

P.S. If you are genuinely depressed don`t be afraid to ask for help and take medication.I was always very anti medication , even refusing to take an aspirin, until I went through it.I popped that first pill and 30 mins later I was human again.They were very mild given to me by a long time doctor friend/student and with mild sleeping tablets they made life bearable.

kindred · 26-06-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by katie

I thought my score of 27 was bad... would you consider seeing a GP about it, kindred?

(off-topic, but your signature is hilarious)

Kyle, funny you should bring up social life and friends. I'm thinking about ditching my friends, or at least seeing them less. Particularly my high school ones. Many years later, I don't really know what we have in common any more. None of them like exercising and I'm sometimes teased for being so hard-core (I haven't even mentioned lifting to them - it's just the fun runs and things like that!) I feel that we really have nothing to talk about.

So, in response to what Kyle said: "But as or more important is these social connections we have." - I would agree, as long as these social connections are meaningful to you. The problem is, if you don't have meaningful social connections, how can you go out and make some?

Nah im not depressed just do badly at tests

Anyway how can people so easily give up their friends. If your even considering ditching them then they probably arent people you are friends with in the first place.

Modo - have you seen my heman method of getting ripped? Cause i have a carebear version for getting not depressed. When i get more time ill post it on the venting thread.

modo · 26-06-2009, 10:20 PM

i am genuinly depressed been on anti depressants since last yr in august. i was seeing a councilor, was making good progress, then it all ended, he got ill... and since i cannot get into another one though i have tried many. everything i had been trying to fix went back to how it was...
mood swings, anger, upset, hoplesness, sorrow, feeling alone. all the emotions i can go through in not even the space of 3 hours. when i am happy and around people i am fine, but once i start feeling angered or pressure i crumble.

breebreerocks · 26-06-2009, 10:25 PM

I've suffered from depression. I have always been an over-achieving stress head, which def used to feed it! It started with just loosing interest in things, then I couldn't be bothered with my friends and after a while just didn't feel like doing much at all. I wasn't angry or sad, just a sense of nothingness. Exercise played a big part of getting out of my depressed state and reckon it forms a big part of the reason why I haven't fallen back into the trap of those negative thought patterns.

Agree with your cortisol theory too. It's why over exercising can cause muscle loss and weight gain. Will your doc check your cortisol levels?

katie · 27-06-2009, 11:33 AM

No idea - i didn't know they could check for cortisol levels!

which reminds me - I need to go and get the results of that fasting blood test today...

azza · 27-06-2009, 12:19 PM

Ive had severe depression for over 10 years. When i restrated training again back in 2007 it saved me. Its had a profound effect on me. Depression starts with an event and then manifests itself until a stressor is activated or a series of events. From then on until diagnosed and medicated its a down hill run. To recover from depression you must fully understand depression and what triggered your depression. Working with a Pyscologist defiantely helps. Todays fast paced lifestyle doesnt help either.
AZZA

26-06-2009, 05:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Stands to reason it would. Modo, go to a counsellor and stick with that person. That's all I have to say to you. __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

26-06-2009, 05:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
katie Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,130	I'm thinking "maybe". A depressed person is probably more stressed about things (I tend to become v. anxious), leading to higher levels of cortisol in the blood, which makes it harder to gain muscle. I don't know how strong this effect is though. __________________ Rock climbing since 2005; running and resistance training since May 2009

27-06-2009, 11:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
katie Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,130	No idea - i didn't know they could check for cortisol levels! which reminds me - I need to go and get the results of that fasting blood test today... __________________ Rock climbing since 2005; running and resistance training since May 2009

27-06-2009, 12:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
azza Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 525	Ive had severe depression for over 10 years. When i restrated training again back in 2007 it saved me. Its had a profound effect on me. Depression starts with an event and then manifests itself until a stressor is activated or a series of events. From then on until diagnosed and medicated its a down hill run. To recover from depression you must fully understand depression and what triggered your depression. Working with a Pyscologist defiantely helps. Todays fast paced lifestyle doesnt help either. AZZA __________________ "I'm jacked up on Mountain Dew and i'll go spider monkey on your ass"

26-06-2009, 09:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zarkov Guest Posts: n/a	I don`t know that you are suffering from depression. Being depressed and having depression are very different.Having gone through about 8 months (8 total, 12 months on and off) of depression after my divorce I can tell you first hand they are different.And then clinical depression is another level altogether. If Timguy is still around? he can correct me if I`m wrong and enlighten us more if I am on the right track (he studies in that field). You are probably physically and mentally burnt out and all the little daily stressors are magnified making you feel down and then the whole negativeness follows. P.S. If you are genuinely depressed don`t be afraid to ask for help and take medication.I was always very anti medication , even refusing to take an aspirin, until I went through it.I popped that first pill and 30 mins later I was human again.They were very mild given to me by a long time doctor friend/student and with mild sleeping tablets they made life bearable.

26-06-2009, 10:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
modo Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,113	i am genuinly depressed been on anti depressants since last yr in august. i was seeing a councilor, was making good progress, then it all ended, he got ill... and since i cannot get into another one though i have tried many. everything i had been trying to fix went back to how it was... mood swings, anger, upset, hoplesness, sorrow, feeling alone. all the emotions i can go through in not even the space of 3 hours. when i am happy and around people i am fine, but once i start feeling angered or pressure i crumble.

26-06-2009, 10:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
breebreerocks Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 668	I've suffered from depression. I have always been an over-achieving stress head, which def used to feed it! It started with just loosing interest in things, then I couldn't be bothered with my friends and after a while just didn't feel like doing much at all. I wasn't angry or sad, just a sense of nothingness. Exercise played a big part of getting out of my depressed state and reckon it forms a big part of the reason why I haven't fallen back into the trap of those negative thought patterns. Agree with your cortisol theory too. It's why over exercising can cause muscle loss and weight gain. Will your doc check your cortisol levels?