Nick's Anabolic Diet Experiment Log. - Ausbb

NPR · 29-08-2010, 07:20 PM

So I've decided to try something a little different by having a go at the anabolic diet. Basically its a high fat super low carb cycle diet. During the week I'll be taking in 40% protein and 60% fat with less that 30g carbs, i need to do this for 12 days at the start of the diet, then once thats done on the weekend i will have a 15% protein, 25% fat, 60% carbs mix.

For a detailed description see the link below but essentially it's touted as great for holding muscle while cutting fat.

Anabolic Diet 101: The Definite Anabolic Diet Guide | StrongLifts.com

I have had over 8 weeks off proper training due to holidays and injury (rotator cuff and lower back) and I'll be trialing this diet while attemping to get back to where i was before I took the time off, hopefully with less bodyfat. So goals are same strength as before but simply leaner, I will re-evaluate once I do this.

I can squat and dead heavy again now but the shoulder it not 100% and i need to bench reverse grip.

Basing the calories intake off 110kg (242lbs x 18 = 4350) I will be taking in 4350 cals per day, which is my maintainance level. I also used a cunningham equation which gave me approx 4200 so BWx18 is accurate enough.

This equals 290g of fat per day and 435g protein.

Over my six daily meals this will equate to around 45g fat (after taking into account 20g of fish oil per day) and 72.5g of protein per meal.

I'll workout my high carb days when If I last the 12 days of low carbs!

I'll be taking the majority of my carbs from green leafy veggies but there will be some incidentals from other foods I would imagine.

I'll be using fish oil, protein powder and a fibre supp.

The concensus is you should give the diet 6 weeks to see results. So this is the timeframe I'll start with.

I'll weigh and take photos first thing monday morning and keep updating this thread with my progress.

Iron Alliance · 29-08-2010, 08:50 PM

I've got a good few years experience with the AD, though not currently using it now. Absolutely love the diet/way of eating as long as you've got your fat sources in check and don't start destroying cheese and bacon left right and centre you should see great results. Infact I made my best ever gains using this diet while training 6-days a week. Took my Squat from 135kg x 12 >>> 150kg x 10, though back then I think the depth would've been questionable! Anyway, good luck with it I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Here's a bit of info if ya need at all. Should cover any and all questions if you get 'em.

My Experience on the Anabolic Diet I: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl..._anabolic_diet

My Experience on the Anabolic Diet II: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl...c_diet_part_ii

My Experience on the Anabolic Diet III: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl...51449&pageNo=0

First two are about 350 pages each. The first 50 pages of No.1 are a must.

Lots of quality info.

Also this is a pretty handy article for anyone looking to get started as it goes over the basics:

Eat Like A Man Part I: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._anabolic_diet

Eat Like A Man Part II: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._anabolic_diet

gareer · 29-08-2010, 09:10 PM

4350 Calories? Thats a buttload! Reckon you could post up what you would generally eat in a day? I'm quite interested to be honest. But good luck! I may try that one day, as I seem to be pretty sensitive to carbs.

NPR · 29-08-2010, 10:46 PM

Cheers Iron Alliance. I've read almost all the stuff you have posted. I will be trying t get as much fat as possible from olive oil, fish oil and red meat. Having said that I will certainly be smashing the cheese and bacon!

Gareer 4350 is maintainance cals for me. I've posted up mys usual eating before, I really CBF'd posting it all again. Check for posts under my name, i'm sure you'll be able to find it.

I'll post up a days eating once i get into the swing of this diet. I'm starting it tmw morning.

Ben · 29-08-2010, 11:22 PM

What are you weighing atm nick?

NPR · 29-08-2010, 11:40 PM

Prob just a shade under 110kg. Which is the weight i used when setting up the diet. I'll weigh myself tmw morning to get an accurate number but prob wont adjust the diet. I'm just hoping it can get me to around 110kg, same strength but around 10-12%bf.

JDizzle · 30-08-2010, 12:33 AM

Awesome, will be keeping an eye on this

looking forward to when you post up the details of a days eating as im a similiar weight ( 105kg) but have never calorie/macronutrient counted

BigJim · 30-08-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JDizzle

Awesome, will be keeping an eye on this

looking forward to when you post up the details of a days eating as im a similiar weight ( 105kg) but have never calorie/macronutrient counted

+1

Keen to see how you go with this Nick. Will be interesting to know how much your energy levels differ with no/little carbs in your diet for that first period.

Will you be doing any cardio with this such as HIIT?

Also around the same bodyweight (107kg) although i would be carrying a lot more fat than you too.

4350 calories is huge. Im currently on 2500 lol.

Iron Alliance · 30-08-2010, 11:42 AM

No worries Nick. I must admit there is nothing better than a 12 whole egg cheese and bacon omlette in the morning. I also had a habit of adding Peanut Butter to nearly everything. Especially chicken stirfry's. Best.

I'm not sure how you'll want to do it, but after the "introductory" 12-days, I wouldn't bother counting fiberous greens to your total. You'd have to eat kilo's of it to make any difference what so ever and there's too many benefits to eating them as opposed not to. I mean 1 extra little broccoli floret aint gonna screw up your diet. But that's just how I did it.

Oh, feta cheese and olives. Greek Omlette. Thank me later.

NPR · 30-08-2010, 11:23 PM

Weighed in at 108 first thing in the morning. Going to keep the diet plan the same for at least 4 weeks.

Diet today

80g whey, 150ml thickened cream

300g silverside, 5 slices cheese

250g rump steak with fat, steamed green beans and broccoli, 2 tablespoons olive oil

double quater pounder with bacon, no bun or sauce

chicken thighs with bacon, steamed greens, fish oil

whey and thickened cream again

energy is fine, workout today was great, the food prep is the only thing pissing me off

stay tuned.
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29-08-2010, 07:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Nick's Anabolic Diet Experiment Log. So I've decided to try something a little different by having a go at the anabolic diet. Basically its a high fat super low carb cycle diet. During the week I'll be taking in 40% protein and 60% fat with less that 30g carbs, i need to do this for 12 days at the start of the diet, then once thats done on the weekend i will have a 15% protein, 25% fat, 60% carbs mix. For a detailed description see the link below but essentially it's touted as great for holding muscle while cutting fat. Anabolic Diet 101: The Definite Anabolic Diet Guide \| StrongLifts.com I have had over 8 weeks off proper training due to holidays and injury (rotator cuff and lower back) and I'll be trialing this diet while attemping to get back to where i was before I took the time off, hopefully with less bodyfat. So goals are same strength as before but simply leaner, I will re-evaluate once I do this. I can squat and dead heavy again now but the shoulder it not 100% and i need to bench reverse grip. Basing the calories intake off 110kg (242lbs x 18 = 4350) I will be taking in 4350 cals per day, which is my maintainance level. I also used a cunningham equation which gave me approx 4200 so BWx18 is accurate enough. This equals 290g of fat per day and 435g protein. Over my six daily meals this will equate to around 45g fat (after taking into account 20g of fish oil per day) and 72.5g of protein per meal. I'll workout my high carb days when If I last the 12 days of low carbs! I'll be taking the majority of my carbs from green leafy veggies but there will be some incidentals from other foods I would imagine. I'll be using fish oil, protein powder and a fibre supp. The concensus is you should give the diet 6 weeks to see results. So this is the timeframe I'll start with. I'll weigh and take photos first thing monday morning and keep updating this thread with my progress. __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

29-08-2010, 08:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Iron Alliance Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Darwin, N.T Gender: Posts: 938	I've got a good few years experience with the AD, though not currently using it now. Absolutely love the diet/way of eating as long as you've got your fat sources in check and don't start destroying cheese and bacon left right and centre you should see great results. Infact I made my best ever gains using this diet while training 6-days a week. Took my Squat from 135kg x 12 >>> 150kg x 10, though back then I think the depth would've been questionable! Anyway, good luck with it I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Here's a bit of info if ya need at all. Should cover any and all questions if you get 'em. My Experience on the Anabolic Diet I: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl..._anabolic_diet My Experience on the Anabolic Diet II: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl...c_diet_part_ii My Experience on the Anabolic Diet III: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl...51449&pageNo=0 First two are about 350 pages each. The first 50 pages of No.1 are a must. Lots of quality info. Also this is a pretty handy article for anyone looking to get started as it goes over the basics: Eat Like A Man Part I: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._anabolic_diet Eat Like A Man Part II: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._anabolic_diet __________________ SKWAT \|\|\|\|\|-ლ-(ಠ_ಠ)-ლ-\|\|\|\|\| MOAR Last edited by Iron Alliance; 29-08-2010 at 08:54 PM. Reason: Stupid things didn't link.

29-08-2010, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Cheers Iron Alliance. I've read almost all the stuff you have posted. I will be trying t get as much fat as possible from olive oil, fish oil and red meat. Having said that I will certainly be smashing the cheese and bacon! Gareer 4350 is maintainance cals for me. I've posted up mys usual eating before, I really CBF'd posting it all again. Check for posts under my name, i'm sure you'll be able to find it. I'll post up a days eating once i get into the swing of this diet. I'm starting it tmw morning. __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

29-08-2010, 11:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ben Active Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,981	What are you weighing atm nick? __________________ 137.5/97.5/150 @ 71

29-08-2010, 11:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Prob just a shade under 110kg. Which is the weight i used when setting up the diet. I'll weigh myself tmw morning to get an accurate number but prob wont adjust the diet. I'm just hoping it can get me to around 110kg, same strength but around 10-12%bf. __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

30-08-2010, 12:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
JDizzle Active Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canberra Gender: Posts: 1,285	Awesome, will be keeping an eye on this looking forward to when you post up the details of a days eating as im a similiar weight ( 105kg) but have never calorie/macronutrient counted

30-08-2010, 11:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
Iron Alliance Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Darwin, N.T Gender: Posts: 938	No worries Nick. I must admit there is nothing better than a 12 whole egg cheese and bacon omlette in the morning. I also had a habit of adding Peanut Butter to nearly everything. Especially chicken stirfry's. Best. I'm not sure how you'll want to do it, but after the "introductory" 12-days, I wouldn't bother counting fiberous greens to your total. You'd have to eat kilo's of it to make any difference what so ever and there's too many benefits to eating them as opposed not to. I mean 1 extra little broccoli floret aint gonna screw up your diet. But that's just how I did it. Oh, feta cheese and olives. Greek Omlette. Thank me later. __________________ SKWAT \|\|\|\|\|-ლ-(ಠ_ಠ)-ლ-\|\|\|\|\| MOAR

30-08-2010, 11:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Weighed in at 108 first thing in the morning. Going to keep the diet plan the same for at least 4 weeks. Diet today 80g whey, 150ml thickened cream 300g silverside, 5 slices cheese 250g rump steak with fat, steamed green beans and broccoli, 2 tablespoons olive oil double quater pounder with bacon, no bun or sauce chicken thighs with bacon, steamed greens, fish oil whey and thickened cream again energy is fine, workout today was great, the food prep is the only thing pissing me off stay tuned. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger