Pimp my Pizza (anabolic pizza) - Ausbb

BoyFromAus · 29-07-2009, 03:40 PM

ok, so many of us like pizza...
i'm trying to figure out how to make one which is high in complex carbs, high in protein, low in sat fats, high in unsat fats, high in fibre, low in sugar... yeah a whole lot aint it.

For vegetables i've got...
Chilli (jalepenos)
Olives
Mushrooms
Eggplant
Capsicum
Onion
Garlic

For Meat, it's either
Lean Chicken breast
Fish
Beef

For Cheese...
Cottage Cheese (i don't know how this will taste, but I'll try it anyway)..

Now this this tough part...
for dough... i don't know of something that is low on yeast, high in low GI complex carbs...

for Sauce... i'm still working on it

So yea, any ideas will be much appreciated.

Kyle Aaron · 29-07-2009, 04:06 PM

Basically any normal pizza with heaps of lean meat on it and without cheese is going to fulfil your criteria of "high in complex carbs, high in protein, low in sat fats, high in unsat fats, high in fibre, low in sugar".

The problem is the lean meat. Meats cook well in the oven when they have lots of fat. Lean meats turn into jerky.

BoyFromAus · 29-07-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Aaron

Basically any normal pizza with heaps of lean meat on it and without cheese is going to fulfil your criteria of "high in complex carbs, high in protein, low in sat fats, high in unsat fats, high in fibre, low in sugar".

The problem is the lean meat. Meats cook well in the oven when they have lots of fat. Lean meats turn into jerky.

yea definitely..
but what about the dough and the sauce?... aren't they both failrly high in sugar? is there any low sugar dough?

I was thinking about cooking the meat separate.. (as in steaming it or roasting it in which case it'll be dry) and then adding it to the pizza.. i don't know how well it'd work..

for the cheese, i was just thinking of adding a bit of cheese and it being cottage (which has sugar)...

Kyle Aaron · 29-07-2009, 04:57 PM

The dough and sauce can be high in sugar, but don't have to be. But "high" is relatively, for each "family sized" base we're talking about a tablespoon of sugar, absolute tops. Most likely a teaspoon. And most of that gets consumed by the yeast in the rising.

The thing with pizza is like burgers and so on, there's usually a lot of fat in them in the meat/cheese. And the bread is pretty dense in energy, that's why medieval peasants on farms used to eat a few pounds of bread a day each. So the whole thing is basically designed as an intense burst of calories for you.

I don't know how cottage cheese would go through an oven, I never tried it.

Which if you're working out hard and/or bulking is good. Otherwise not so much...

Maybe I will try it, with my increased cycling and running I keep getting hungry, and my weight has been steady for a bit...

BoyFromAus · 29-07-2009, 05:07 PM

cool.cheers for the info man.
So dough is just dense cals but not necessarily high in sugar...

yea i'm not gonna have this since i'm cutting at the moment.. but on my bulk, i'll definitely make this pizza.

Kyle Aaron · 29-07-2009, 05:15 PM

Pizza dough is just bread. Usually has a bit of olive oil in it to make it less likely to stick and give it a bit of gloss. Like all breads, it could have lots or not much sugar, depends on who's making it. McDs buns, heaps, sourdough, not much.

But yeah you wouldn't want it for a cutting diet

Which reminds me, I have to cook for a vegan visitor tonight. Vegetarian is easy, I do that all the time, vegan is harder. "Got any soy milk?" Urgh.

29-07-2009, 05:20 PM

Use wholemeal pitas for mini pizza bases or make your own.
Half wholemeal flour,half white, and water and a small satchel of yeast.The yeast can be left out for a nice thin crispy base.The sauce can be made by whizzing up a can of tomatoes in a blender and mix with herbs.Put the meat directly on the sauce to get over the drying out problem.
As for cottage cheese, it just doesn`t work.It still tastes good but it isn`t a pizza anymore.Go for low fat cheese and use very sparingly.

breebreerocks · 29-07-2009, 11:02 PM

Will have to find a few of the pizza dough recipes I have floating around that are OK. Made one with SPI once- vomit.

modo · 30-07-2009, 12:00 AM

why dont you stir fry the meat and half bake the pizze, them when pizza nearly cooked, put meat cooked on and the cottage cheese bake for like another 10 min. meat will be nice and wont be too dry.

hyjak · 30-07-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarkov

Use wholemeal pitas for mini pizza bases or make your own.

i eat pita pizzas all the time, great post work out meal with chicken breast, avocado & low fat cheese

29-07-2009, 03:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
BoyFromAus Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Gender: Posts: 800	Pimp my Pizza (anabolic pizza) ok, so many of us like pizza... i'm trying to figure out how to make one which is high in complex carbs, high in protein, low in sat fats, high in unsat fats, high in fibre, low in sugar... yeah a whole lot aint it. For vegetables i've got... Chilli (jalepenos) Olives Mushrooms Eggplant Capsicum Onion Garlic For Meat, it's either Lean Chicken breast Fish Beef For Cheese... Cottage Cheese (i don't know how this will taste, but I'll try it anyway).. Now this this tough part... for dough... i don't know of something that is low on yeast, high in low GI complex carbs... for Sauce... i'm still working on it So yea, any ideas will be much appreciated. __________________ Reloaded

29-07-2009, 04:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Basically any normal pizza with heaps of lean meat on it and without cheese is going to fulfil your criteria of "high in complex carbs, high in protein, low in sat fats, high in unsat fats, high in fibre, low in sugar". The problem is the lean meat. Meats cook well in the oven when they have lots of fat. Lean meats turn into jerky. __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

29-07-2009, 04:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	The dough and sauce can be high in sugar, but don't have to be. But "high" is relatively, for each "family sized" base we're talking about a tablespoon of sugar, absolute tops. Most likely a teaspoon. And most of that gets consumed by the yeast in the rising. The thing with pizza is like burgers and so on, there's usually a lot of fat in them in the meat/cheese. And the bread is pretty dense in energy, that's why medieval peasants on farms used to eat a few pounds of bread a day each. So the whole thing is basically designed as an intense burst of calories for you. I don't know how cottage cheese would go through an oven, I never tried it. Which if you're working out hard and/or bulking is good. Otherwise not so much... Maybe I will try it, with my increased cycling and running I keep getting hungry, and my weight has been steady for a bit... __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

29-07-2009, 05:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
BoyFromAus Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Gender: Posts: 800	cool.cheers for the info man. So dough is just dense cals but not necessarily high in sugar... yea i'm not gonna have this since i'm cutting at the moment.. but on my bulk, i'll definitely make this pizza. __________________ Reloaded

29-07-2009, 05:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kyle Aaron Active Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 3,682	Pizza dough is just bread. Usually has a bit of olive oil in it to make it less likely to stick and give it a bit of gloss. Like all breads, it could have lots or not much sugar, depends on who's making it. McDs buns, heaps, sourdough, not much. But yeah you wouldn't want it for a cutting diet Which reminds me, I have to cook for a vegan visitor tonight. Vegetarian is easy, I do that all the time, vegan is harder. "Got any soy milk?" Urgh. __________________ Recent clients' best results: BW +10kg/-27kg ... BF-11% ... ♀/♂1RM/kg SQ65/145 OHP30/65 DL75/170 "fitness and lifting is just an interest I have. Plain and simple. Some people like music, others like shopping, I like deadlifts." - a client[/SIZE]

29-07-2009, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zarkov Guest Posts: n/a	Use wholemeal pitas for mini pizza bases or make your own. Half wholemeal flour,half white, and water and a small satchel of yeast.The yeast can be left out for a nice thin crispy base.The sauce can be made by whizzing up a can of tomatoes in a blender and mix with herbs.Put the meat directly on the sauce to get over the drying out problem. As for cottage cheese, it just doesn`t work.It still tastes good but it isn`t a pizza anymore.Go for low fat cheese and use very sparingly.

29-07-2009, 11:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
breebreerocks Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Gender: Posts: 668	Will have to find a few of the pizza dough recipes I have floating around that are OK. Made one with SPI once- vomit.

30-07-2009, 12:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
modo Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: Posts: 1,113	why dont you stir fry the meat and half bake the pizze, them when pizza nearly cooked, put meat cooked on and the cottage cheese bake for like another 10 min. meat will be nice and wont be too dry.