Basic Strength Standards - Page 3 - Ausbb

lucku · 25-08-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Aaron

I made a metric version of the strength standards sheet, men on page 1, women on page 2.

thx alot for computing it into metric form

trofius · 25-08-2009, 07:28 AM

I do prefer this one however, no tables, just enter the figures, there are metric tables also if you want aswell, to see what the next level is to set a goal.

Strength level calculator: measure ability in common exercises such as the deadlift, clean and press, bench press, squat and power clean

Fadi · 25-08-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trofius

I do prefer this one however, no tables, just enter the figures, there are metric tables also if you want aswell, to see what the next level is to set a goal.

Strength level calculator: measure ability in common exercises such as the deadlift, clean and press, bench press, squat and power clean

Well Trofius, I tried the above calculater and I got "Better than Elite"! So the question now becomes: how accurate is this calculater?

I put BW 74kg, Squat 200kg.

Well it's interesting to say the least. Thank you for posting it.

Fadi.

trofius · 25-08-2009, 09:32 AM

Fadi there are charts on that page aswell.

But ex olympic weightlifter,-- umm better than elite probably fits well. I would assume that once you were elite thats it...You are probably in the top 0.1% of the population

Fadi · 25-08-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by trofius

Fadi there are charts on that page aswell.

But ex olympic weightlifter,-- umm better than elite probably fits well. I would assume that once you were elite thats it...You are probably in the top 0.1% of the population

Thank you Mick, I totally missed those charts before. It's still interesting and I very much appreciate you putting it up. Wouldn't be nice if everything was as easy to work out as this.

Time for bed. Good Morning Everyone.

Fadi.

PTC · 25-08-2009, 12:01 PM

Interesting chart. It rates my best bench press as better than elite, yet I never lifted outside a gym ( 165kg @ 90kg)

It also gave me a better than elite on my clean & press (102.5kg @ 90kg). My press was done in military press fashion as well.

I think its a touch optimistic lol

It also rates the powerclean & squat of a 17yo boy as advanced to elite, what happens when he grows up?

Max C&P is better than elite, although he push presses

Surely better than Elite should mean just that, not gym lifts from hacks

Half my clientel would register Elite lifts on that. Here are a few of the BETTER THAN ELITE

Kelly 152.5kg BP @ 85kg - Better than Elite
Simon 240kg deadlift @ 79kg - Better than Elite
Max 108.5kg PC @ 68kg _ Better than Elite
Max 180kg deadlift @ 68kg - Better than Elite
Kelly 105kg C&P - Better than Elite
Nina 77.5kg BP @ 60kg - Better than Elite
Nina 105kg squat @ 60kg - Better than Elite
Nina 127.5kg deadlift @ 60kg - Better than Elite
Nina 55kg C&P @ 60kg - Better than Elite

Theres more, but I wont bore you with them.

Too optimistic

hyjak · 25-08-2009, 02:25 PM

it puts alot of my lifts at intermediate to advanced which i dont think is correct

Kyle Aaron · 25-08-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PTC

Half my clientel would register Elite lifts on that. Here are a few of the BETTER THAN ELITE

To be fair, the one with the most "better than elite" numbers is Nina, and hasn't she won some national competitions?

The "elite" are the national competitors, the winner of a national competition is better than the elite.

trofius · 25-08-2009, 10:09 PM

Those are all damm big lifts, for their size, so you don't consider them special?

Elite is elite, it means that they have acheived a standard far above that of the normal person. MArcos how many people do you know have done a 165kg press @ 90kg, or better than 1.8 time their body weight? not a lot i am assuming.. now compare that number with how many people go to a zombie gym, and then how many people dont, how many people out of nearly 7 billion could bench 1.8 times body weight, I am just guessing here but probably less than 0.01% I would say that puts you in an elite class of lifter..

But you have high standards, and that is why you have high results... perspective plays an important part here. maybe just ignore the standards they offer, keep their calculation, and apply new standards, or just use the value, to compare against other peoples and yourself...it would not be too much different from the wilks score...bw vs lift.

PTC · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

I think that only Fadi would be considered to have Better than Elite lifts on here.

The guys at PTC are strong, but not Fadi strong. Advanced would be a better term I feel.

Shorty would cause the calculator to blow up lol.

25-08-2009, 07:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
trofius Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rockhampton Gender: Posts: 1,830	I do prefer this one however, no tables, just enter the figures, there are metric tables also if you want aswell, to see what the next level is to set a goal. Strength level calculator: measure ability in common exercises such as the deadlift, clean and press, bench press, squat and power clean __________________ Mick..yes another one there are hundreds here..! Currently 74kg, 173cm ~15%bf, 1 RM: B125, BS150, FS110 D180, MP75, PP80, PC90 6 RM: B100, BS110, FS80, D160, MP60, PP60, PC70 http://ausbb.com/member-training-dia...ys-2010-a.html Last edited by trofius; 25-08-2009 at 07:38 AM.

25-08-2009, 09:32 AM	#24 (permalink)
trofius Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rockhampton Gender: Posts: 1,830	Fadi there are charts on that page aswell. But ex olympic weightlifter,-- umm better than elite probably fits well. I would assume that once you were elite thats it...You are probably in the top 0.1% of the population __________________ Mick..yes another one there are hundreds here..! Currently 74kg, 173cm ~15%bf, 1 RM: B125, BS150, FS110 D180, MP75, PP80, PC90 6 RM: B100, BS110, FS80, D160, MP60, PP60, PC70 http://ausbb.com/member-training-dia...ys-2010-a.html

25-08-2009, 02:25 PM	#27 (permalink)
hyjak Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,877	it puts alot of my lifts at intermediate to advanced which i dont think is correct __________________ Resident Reese's addict - powered by peanut butter cups

25-08-2009, 10:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
trofius Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rockhampton Gender: Posts: 1,830	Those are all damm big lifts, for their size, so you don't consider them special? Elite is elite, it means that they have acheived a standard far above that of the normal person. MArcos how many people do you know have done a 165kg press @ 90kg, or better than 1.8 time their body weight? not a lot i am assuming.. now compare that number with how many people go to a zombie gym, and then how many people dont, how many people out of nearly 7 billion could bench 1.8 times body weight, I am just guessing here but probably less than 0.01% I would say that puts you in an elite class of lifter.. But you have high standards, and that is why you have high results... perspective plays an important part here. maybe just ignore the standards they offer, keep their calculation, and apply new standards, or just use the value, to compare against other peoples and yourself...it would not be too much different from the wilks score...bw vs lift. __________________ Mick..yes another one there are hundreds here..! Currently 74kg, 173cm ~15%bf, 1 RM: B125, BS150, FS110 D180, MP75, PP80, PC90 6 RM: B100, BS110, FS80, D160, MP60, PP60, PC70 http://ausbb.com/member-training-dia...ys-2010-a.html

25-08-2009, 12:01 PM	#26 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	Interesting chart. It rates my best bench press as better than elite, yet I never lifted outside a gym ( 165kg @ 90kg) It also gave me a better than elite on my clean & press (102.5kg @ 90kg). My press was done in military press fashion as well. I think its a touch optimistic lol It also rates the powerclean & squat of a 17yo boy as advanced to elite, what happens when he grows up? Max C&P is better than elite, although he push presses Surely better than Elite should mean just that, not gym lifts from hacks Half my clientel would register Elite lifts on that. Here are a few of the BETTER THAN ELITE Kelly 152.5kg BP @ 85kg - Better than Elite Simon 240kg deadlift @ 79kg - Better than Elite Max 108.5kg PC @ 68kg _ Better than Elite Max 180kg deadlift @ 68kg - Better than Elite Kelly 105kg C&P - Better than Elite Nina 77.5kg BP @ 60kg - Better than Elite Nina 105kg squat @ 60kg - Better than Elite Nina 127.5kg deadlift @ 60kg - Better than Elite Nina 55kg C&P @ 60kg - Better than Elite Theres more, but I wont bore you with them. Too optimistic

25-08-2009, 10:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	I think that only Fadi would be considered to have Better than Elite lifts on here. The guys at PTC are strong, but not Fadi strong. Advanced would be a better term I feel. Shorty would cause the calculator to blow up lol.