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31-08-2009, 01:05 PM

Would that be divided by bodyweight NPR? Say if I was to squat 155kg and you are squatting 155kg, for me that is 2x bodyweight and for you that is not even 1.5 Bodyweight.

Or just an all out best lift?

NPR · 31-08-2009, 01:18 PM

Well I would say simply the biggest lifts. Dividing it into bodyweight would just be a pain. Yes it would favour the heavy guys and Yes I'm bias because I'm a heavy f cuk, but hey you guys get it easier on the bodyweight referenced lifts.

Im any event its is easier for a 72.5kg guy to squat double bodyweight than a 110kg guy to do the same. The wilkes score for the lifts are 113.15 and 129.47 respectively. The wilkes score is a formula used to determine thge best lifter at a powerlifting comp, this is because simply working the score out using multiplication of bodyweight is favourable to the lighter guys.

Now dont get me wrong, I'm not rubbishing your lifts. Anyone who can squat 2xBW should be very happy. But when there is 30kg difference between lifters you are not comparing apples with apples.

PTC · 31-08-2009, 01:19 PM

To keep the lighter guys in the loop, we could rate lifts on Wilks score. Example.

Bench press
Nick 145kg @ 108kg = 85.82 Wilks
Trofius 110kg @ 68kg = 84.35 Wilks
UPG 120kg @ 82kg = 80.68 Wilks
Josh GTIR 110kg @ 77kg = 76.98 Wilks
Joshcore 100kg @ 72kg = 73.37 Wilks
Hyjak 100kg @ 84kg = 66.28 Wilks

To find your Wilks score, there is a calculator on my website

PERFORMANCE TRAINING CENTRE in Frankston, VIC - PH: 0404 453 542 - HOME OF THE 200KG DEADLIFT

I think this may be the fairer way. Its how I decide winners at my comps.

katie · 31-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTC

To keep the lighter guys in the loop, we could rate lifts on Wilks score.

And to keep us women in the loop too!

That's a nice calculator, Markos, and it's good that it makes allowances for gender, being the weaker sex and all!

PTC · 31-08-2009, 01:26 PM

With Wilks, there is no advantage or disadvantage due to bodyweight.

Stronger guy comes out on top. It can be used to rate individual lifts or totals.

PTC · 31-08-2009, 01:28 PM

Absolutely Katie, it allows the womens lifts to be competitive with the guys.

As an example, Ninas bench press of 77.5kg @ 60kg scores a Wilks of 86.40.

NPR · 31-08-2009, 01:34 PM

Great idea top 5 by wilkes.

PTC · 31-08-2009, 01:37 PM

I still need vids of those I cant verify personally.

31-08-2009, 01:46 PM

Yeah the Wilkes score sounds good.

I'll bloody do some more recording tonight with my other camera. Until they can be verified, no score or place on the board.

upg · 31-08-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh_GTiR

What do you weigh UPG?

This needs to be made a sticky!!

body weight 82kg

31-08-2009, 01:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Well I would say simply the biggest lifts. Dividing it into bodyweight would just be a pain. Yes it would favour the heavy guys and Yes I'm bias because I'm a heavy f cuk, but hey you guys get it easier on the bodyweight referenced lifts. Im any event its is easier for a 72.5kg guy to squat double bodyweight than a 110kg guy to do the same. The wilkes score for the lifts are 113.15 and 129.47 respectively. The wilkes score is a formula used to determine thge best lifter at a powerlifting comp, this is because simply working the score out using multiplication of bodyweight is favourable to the lighter guys. Now dont get me wrong, I'm not rubbishing your lifts. Anyone who can squat 2xBW should be very happy. But when there is 30kg difference between lifters you are not comparing apples with apples. __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

31-08-2009, 01:19 PM	#23 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	To keep the lighter guys in the loop, we could rate lifts on Wilks score. Example. Bench press Nick 145kg @ 108kg = 85.82 Wilks Trofius 110kg @ 68kg = 84.35 Wilks UPG 120kg @ 82kg = 80.68 Wilks Josh GTIR 110kg @ 77kg = 76.98 Wilks Joshcore 100kg @ 72kg = 73.37 Wilks Hyjak 100kg @ 84kg = 66.28 Wilks To find your Wilks score, there is a calculator on my website PERFORMANCE TRAINING CENTRE in Frankston, VIC - PH: 0404 453 542 - HOME OF THE 200KG DEADLIFT I think this may be the fairer way. Its how I decide winners at my comps. Last edited by PTC; 31-08-2009 at 02:27 PM.

31-08-2009, 01:34 PM	#27 (permalink)
NPR Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Gender: Posts: 1,133	Great idea top 5 by wilkes. __________________ Bigger Faster Stronger

31-08-2009, 01:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Josh_GTiR Guest Posts: n/a	Would that be divided by bodyweight NPR? Say if I was to squat 155kg and you are squatting 155kg, for me that is 2x bodyweight and for you that is not even 1.5 Bodyweight. Or just an all out best lift?

31-08-2009, 01:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	With Wilks, there is no advantage or disadvantage due to bodyweight. Stronger guy comes out on top. It can be used to rate individual lifts or totals.

31-08-2009, 01:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	Absolutely Katie, it allows the womens lifts to be competitive with the guys. As an example, Ninas bench press of 77.5kg @ 60kg scores a Wilks of 86.40.

31-08-2009, 01:37 PM	#28 (permalink)
PTC Active Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Frankston Gender: Posts: 6,725	I still need vids of those I cant verify personally.

31-08-2009, 01:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
Josh_GTiR Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah the Wilkes score sounds good. I'll bloody do some more recording tonight with my other camera. Until they can be verified, no score or place on the board.