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If thats what they are firing from the hip for then maybe they should use their brain and ask, not its not a first resort, not going to tell you all the options or personal reasons that this has become an option.
We arent that young or immature
Yeah very good point mate, will be using that, thats for sure. Will look into fasting as its not something i really thought about as i just thought good diet and workout right but clearly thats not working
Thanks for the actual useful advice and will do some research into this as the only reason i asked about going down the path i said in my thread was because we have researched most other options and wanted all the information of all sides before making an informed decision
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