Thanks @0ni ;
I'm ok with diet, know what I need to be doing there but I have come across a source for this and was just thinking about it. Unless you meant anything else by "use diet"?
Do you have any idea of the effectiveness run on it's own? It's not cheap.
Also, how many iu as a minimum would you think for before fasted cardio and after training?
Oh hai.
Does anyone have any educated opinions on using just GH for fat loss, muscle gain and anti aging?
There's plenty of info out there but for the most part it's talking about stacking it with test.
Cheers
Use diet
Take in the AM and do fasted cardio for fat loss
Post training directly into muscles trained for gain
Longevity 2ui before bed
Thanks @0ni
Do you have any idea of the effectiveness run on it's own? It's not cheap.
Also, how many iu as a minimum would you think for before fasted cardio and after training?
Thanks @JUICE JUNKY;
Very helpful!
Oh hai.
Pharma GH is better than Generic GH for many reasons, but most people simply can't acquire pharma gh or they can't afford it. Generics will bloat you more and add more size, whereas pharma will actually rid you of water and give you harder leaner denser muscle. Pharma is also cleaner and safer and can be used for longer periods of time, whereas generics often give a tolerance build-up over 3-4 months of continued use and the user often needs to increase the dose.
They are both good for muscle gain and anti-aging and fat loss. But like I said, pharma wins hands down if you want a quality hard looking dense lean body.
Stacking with steroids will always give better results, and stacking with slin will take you a step further as well.
How much diet should I use?
What you say is different to what a lot of guys do. They do morning shots for muscle gain on an empty stomach then eat 30-60 minutes later, OR night shots for fat loss as GH during sleep will burn fat, and also obviously increase muscle mass. If you have the coin then just pin it three times a day: morning, post-workout and bed time.
Most people are retards
Systemic IGF-1 levels do fuck all for muscle gain
Where did you get your gh info from Oni? I ask cause I know so many guys that do the protocol I mentioned and its a known regime to follow. I'm not having a go at you, I just really want to know who told you to run gh that way, or where did you read info telling you to do it that way?
Because if I can get you better gains from my method/regime then it will only benefit you.
Not a problem buddaye!!
Always happy to help out an Irishman, who's from the USA, who's posting on an Ozzy Board.....
Wait What???
I'm saying that most drugs info comes from competitors or wanna be plastic trophy owners
If you can AFFORD 4ui a day when do you take it?
Systemic IGF-1 does not increase muscle, local expressions DOES. If muscle gain is your goal and you can only AFFORD 4ui then you take it all post workout to get maximum IGF-1 expression in the muscle
Pros split the dose because 10ui at once makes your fingers numb and turns you diabetic, and you're getting enough local expression at that dose split up for it to not matter anyway.
Same goes for slin, take the fast acting shit, you lose the benefit in GH expression at 10ui, so no need for more. Take it mostly fasted then eat as you train then go home and eat normally post training then take your GH.
Spreading the slin out or taking long acting slin will fuck you up or make you fat, unless you're taking enough GH where you're just lowering blood sugar to stop you from being diabetic
haha Irish born, lived in STRAYA for 10 years (hence being on ausbb) and just recently moved to the US
This is going to get confusing, but at the same time maybe we can learn from each other. I know what you mean about info coming from competitors or wanna be winners etc.
4iu, me first thing upon waking on an empty stomach, no food for 60 minutes, although you can consume proteins, but definitely no fats or carbs. This changes to if we talk about generics VS pharma, cause if its pharma I could do 2iu upon waking with the same protocol mentioned above, then at night OR post-workout do the other 2iu. But if Generic i'd just shoot the whole 4iu upon waking. I'm not saying your post-workout shots don't work, if they work then all the more power to you. I guess we know and talk to different people so we get different views and opinions etc, all we can do is use our knowledge and convert it into real life situations.
Fingers going numb is a good way to tell if its working and CTS, and also there's only so much gh that will work at any given time, so splitting higher doses makes perfect sense e.g. 5iu morning and 5iu post-workout or before bed. By not having sugars around gh time you minimise the chances of going diabetic.
Yeah cool, whats the US like? My old mans always going over there aye, he loves the fucken place!
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