So how does that apply to someone who doesn't compete?
And what if they don't have wrist straps?
How about instead of tricking the body into high intensity mode, you actually train with high intensity? Sounds more logical to me...
Kyle Aaron said:well you'd have to try pretty hard to get injured working up to and maintaining lifts like that.
So let's see - (take me for example using your figures), would be a 60kg squat, a 45kg overhead, and a 90kg deadlift...I agree Kyle, no wait, I've already said that in another thread, where you were being a complete tossbag drawing your own bullshit conclusions from stuff that was not true.
Kyle, how many times do you have to be told, I did not injure myself from lifting with bad form, I injured myself from over training, and even with this "injury" I still set a new squat and deadlift PB, as well as squatted your max for 22reps without going to failure, so I think it's about time you stopped using 'my injury' as the crux for your arguments.
In the other thread, you were talking about not worrying about form, that it wasn't important, you just had to get strong. We then learned you had injured yourself. Of course, when you're injured you can lift nothing. So in the end, bad form has made you weaker than you could be. Congratulations.
I would say that consistently using bad form on working up to a 60kg squat or the like is "working hard to injure yourself." People can and do injure themselves using bad form on lighter lifts. There's a guy in my gym who dislocated his AC joint doing bicep curls with 15kg dumbbells. It's just that they're much more likely to injure themselves using bad form on heavier lifts.
Which is why I said, try to have good form from the beginning, it gets you in practice so that by the time it's heavy good form is instinctive. But of course "good" doesn't mean "perfect." Deadlifting isn't ballet, and if you treat it like ballet then you'll certainly never set any records.
Pushing yourself to the top level in anything means you make sacrifices, and could get hurt in one way or another. All you can do is minimise the risks. But if you're not pushing yourself to the top level then sacrifices aren't needed. I'm not sure why this is controversial or difficult for you to understand. You do realise skullcrushers are not a ballistic exercise?
Secondly, again because you have just don't seem to get it, what I was talking about in the form thread was new lifters, lifting less than 100kg, like yourself, should just be focusing on lifting, and when they actually start moving some real weight then start worrying about form aka refining technique to get the most out of your mechanics.
austy (a new lifter) in this very thread was squatting 80kg because of bad form. He was told he's just weak and needs to train harder. A little technique refinement in 2 weeks got him to squatting 105 for the same sets & reps.
There goes your theory.
Yet the 'form nazi' kyle has. 90kg squat...
I haven't trained my max in 2 years either, it still went up by 7.5kg though, must have been my shit formAnd you haven't increased your max in 2 years.
I haven' trained my max in 2 years either, it still went up by 7.5kg though, must have been my shit form
This.100% perfect form is not necessary for a beginner to start lifting with, and that it is quite acceptable for them to have '90%' good form, then tweak little things to get closer to 100% as they begin to use more weight?
Any increase from not directly training for an increase would be a success in itself wouldn't you say?7.5kg increase in 2 years at around 20 years of age??? Not the results that most here are after.
Mate I have a life outside of the gym that requires me to be able to function to a competent degree in order to put food on the table.Seriously if your excuse is you haven't been training your max for 2 years why are you dishing out all this advise to people here who are training to get stronger.
Any increase from not directly training for an increase would be a success in itself wouldn't you say?
Mate I have a life outside of the gym that requires me to be able to function to a competent degree in order to put food on the table.
I ran my own lawn mowing and gardening business for a year, this greatly effected how much time I could spend in the gym and how hard I could push myself. If I wasn't able to move during the day because of going hard at the gym the night before I wasn't able to get through a lot of jobs. If I did injure myself in the gym I wasn't able to do a lot of jobs. Again, which puts no money on the table. I'm not a professional athlete, lifting comes second.
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