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JUST SAY NO!


To Endurance running. It's hard on the body and the benefits can be had doing other activities that are non impactive, and or take less time, etc. Unless you're job or specific sport demands it (e.g., mil, etc) no reason to run for distance. Other than a tiny % of the population (e.g, Kenyans etc) human physiology does do well on running. Endurance athletes, especially endurance runners are some of the most injured, immune suppressed, hormonally messed up, athletes you'll see or that I have worked with.


Depending on fiber types and other factors, structure, etc, running will be easier for some than others. Mentally, it does take fortitude for me because my brain keeps telling me it's a waste of time and I lose the drive to carry on. Yes, bbers, strength athletes, etc should do some conditioning work but endurance running as a rule, about your worst choice for that.


Take 10 people who have only done RT for a decade and 10 who have only done running. Make the first group train for a marathon and the second do RT with the goal of say hitting a 2X BW bench, 2.5-3X BW dead and squat in that time period and see what happens.


I can guarantee you the RT -> running group will be able to do the marathon before the running -> RT hits those goals.


We see people all the time go from zero exercise to making a goal of running Boston, giving themselves like 6-12 months to do it, and they do it. Obviously not competitive in the times they do it, but they do it. Boston Marathon used to go right by my house and was mostly people who decided to get in shape with the goal of doing the Boston Marathon. Thousands and thousands of them, many looking awful...


Very few people will go from zero exercise to those RT goals above in the same time period.


Just because it feels awful and is hard, does not mean it's a good choice. Endurance running, not even once. Hiking, biking, HIIT, swimming, various low impact machines, etc, for the win.


Flame suit on :)


Picked this of Facebook

What do you lady's think.
 

Bazza20

Well-known member
My first thoughts are I don't give a fuck what people say on Facebook.

I hate cardio and I don't like running. Ive tried every excuse not to do it. Bike for cardio, sprint intervals, swimming ect but I feel better when I have good running fitness. It makes me feel better and I complete day to day jobs easier.

The persons example was flawed. They give no time goal of the marathon but give 2x bodyweight for the bench.

Of course the weight trained group will run the marathon first because there is no standard set for it. They could run a marathon on day 1. It will just be slow. Then the running trained group has to hit 2x bench and 3x dead. Lifts that most long term gym rats never make it to anyway.

at the end of the day why can't someone run and lift weights. Revolutionary thought I know.
 
S

Stiffy

Guest
Yep, stuff running Marathons. Although when conditioned, interval running or running Hills is something I enjoy. My knees are fooked though.
 
I think he's on about people, untrained people the decide to run a 40km over marathon, is not a wise healthy choice.

Some will get away with due to their mechanics?

Running is a good modality for improved condition, but running hours on hours looking like a whippet seems a tad silly IMO.

My cardio element is part of my weight workout, is that enough time to spend on it?
Who knows but if it enhances what you do throughout the week then that seems about right.
 
Yep, stuff running Marathons. Although when conditioned, interval running or running Hills is something I enjoy. My knees are fooked though.

Knees and back, and feet seem to quickly end plans of the runner.

Any other form of cardio just seems abhorrent to me but I know I got to do something especially as I get older.
 

Bazza20

Well-known member
For me I've never seen the point in turning weights into a cardio session. Just makes it a shit weights workout and a shit cardio workout.

I agree training to run marathons isn't likely healthy and certainly not easy on the body for most but Neither is a 2x bench and a 3x deadlift.
 
For me I've never seen the point in turning weights into a cardio session. Just makes it a shit weights workout and a shit cardio workout.

I agree training to run marathons isn't likely healthy and certainly not easy on the body for most but Neither is a 2x bench and a 3x deadlift.

I fuckin love it.
 

Repacked

Punxsutawney resident
I don't think most would run marathons for the health benefits. Like BB and PL most do it for the mental and physical challenge.

What does RT refer to?
 
I don't think most would run marathons for the health benefits. Like BB and PL most do it for the mental and physical challenge.

What does RT refer to?

I have no idea what most think.

But since the 70's aerobics and its variants have been the most popular ways that people believe is the holy grail to health and more often than not most preach; "more is better".

Outside of that you have the fanatics
 

Repacked

Punxsutawney resident
I have no idea what most think.

But since the 70's aerobics and its variants have been the most popular ways that people believe is the holy grail to health and more often than not most preach; "more is better".

Outside of that you have the fanatics

We're not talking about most people. We're talking about marathoners. Whether or not they believe more is better most people will never run a marathon.
 
I have no idea I don't know many marathoners.
But the ones I had known over the years did think they were a better healthier lot.


My brother was one of them along with about 15 others through my life, thought they were a bunch of righteous arseholes.

Also know a few earobic bunny's that had a go with a marathon or two.

Once again you waffle on
 

WoodyAllen

Well-known member
My first thoughts are I don't give a fuck what people say on Facebook.

Oh Bazza. Sometimes I think we should get married.


modern_family_wedding.jpg
 

Big Mick

"2014 - Kunce of the year"
JUST SAY NO!


To Endurance running. It's hard on the body and the benefits can be had doing other activities that are non impactive, and or take less time, etc. Unless you're job or specific sport demands it (e.g., mil, etc) no reason to run for distance. Other than a tiny % of the population (e.g, Kenyans etc) human physiology does do well on running. Endurance athletes, especially endurance runners are some of the most injured, immune suppressed, hormonally messed up, athletes you'll see or that I have worked with.


Depending on fiber types and other factors, structure, etc, running will be easier for some than others. Mentally, it does take fortitude for me because my brain keeps telling me it's a waste of time and I lose the drive to carry on. Yes, bbers, strength athletes, etc should do some conditioning work but endurance running as a rule, about your worst choice for that.


Take 10 people who have only done RT for a decade and 10 who have only done running. Make the first group train for a marathon and the second do RT with the goal of say hitting a 2X BW bench, 2.5-3X BW dead and squat in that time period and see what happens.


I can guarantee you the RT -> running group will be able to do the marathon before the running -> RT hits those goals.


We see people all the time go from zero exercise to making a goal of running Boston, giving themselves like 6-12 months to do it, and they do it. Obviously not competitive in the times they do it, but they do it. Boston Marathon used to go right by my house and was mostly people who decided to get in shape with the goal of doing the Boston Marathon. Thousands and thousands of them, many looking awful...


Very few people will go from zero exercise to those RT goals above in the same time period.


Just because it feels awful and is hard, does not mean it's a good choice. Endurance running, not even once. Hiking, biking, HIIT, swimming, various low impact machines, etc, for the win.


Flame suit on :)


Picked this of Facebook

What do you lady's think.

The whole thing is flawed, people are build to walk and run, it's what we do, people are not supposed to squat three times body weight, it's not natural.

There is a limit to benefits of anything, if some running is good does not mean more is better, if some resistance training is good does not mean more is better, if some water is good does not mean more is better etc etc

The secret is finding the balance and your reasons for doing it.

If it is to be healthy there is no real point in benching double body weight and putting undue strain on your body, or running a marathon for that matter, when a 3-5km run may give you similar benefits without the risk of injury.
 
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