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The Truth About Bodybuilding Genetics

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The Truth About Bodybuilding Genetics
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by Bret Contreras – 1/11/2011

How the Mutants Do It

World-record deadlifter Andy Bolton squatted 500 and deadlifted 600 the very first time he tried the lifts.
Former Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates bench-pressed 315 pounds on his first attempt as a teen.
Metroflex Gym owner Brian Dobson tells the story of his first encounter with then-powerlifter and future Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman. He describes Ronnie's enormous thighs with veins bulging through the spandex, despite the fact that Ronnie had never used an anabolic steroid at that time.
Arnold Schwarzenegger looked more muscular after one year of lifting than most people do after ten.
It's just plain obvious that some individuals respond much better to training than others. But what makes the elite respond so much better than us regular folks?

Genetics: The Cold Hard Truth

This probably isn't what you want to hear, but your progress is largely dependent on your genetics.
Recent research shows that some individuals respond very well to strength training, some barely respond, and some don't respond at all. You read that correctly. Some people don't show any noticeable results. Researchers created the term "non-responders" for these individuals.
A landmark study by Hubal used 585 male and female human subjects and showed that twelve weeks of progressive dynamic exercise resulted in a shockingly wide range of responses.
The worst responders lost 2% of their muscle cross-sectional area and didn't gain any strength whatsoever. The best responders increased muscle cross-sectional area by 59% and increased their 1RM strength by 250%. Keep in mind these individuals were subjected to the exact same training protocol.
The Hubal study isn't the only study showing these types of results. Petrella showed that 16 weeks of progressive dynamic exercise involving 66 human subjects failed to yield any measurable hypertrophy in 26% of subjects. Wow, sucks to be them!
Now, the question is, what mechanisms explain this? Let's dig into the current research.

How Genetics Affect Muscle Growth


Strong evidence suggests that the results you see in the gym are highly dependent on the efficacy of satellite cell-mediated myonuclear addition. In laymen's terms, your muscles won't grow unless the satellite cells surrounding your muscle fibers donate their nuclei to your muscles so they can produce more genetic material to signal the cells to grow.
Petralla showed that the difference between excellent responders in comparison to average and non-responders in strength training was mostly due to satellite cell activation. Excellent responders have more satellite cells that surround their muscle fibers, as well as a remarkable ability to expand their satellite cell pool via training.
In this study, excellent responders averaged 21 satellite cells per 100 fibers at baseline, which rose to 30 satellite cells per 100 fibers by week sixteen. This was accompanied by a 54% increase in mean fiber area. The non-responders averaged 10 satellite cells per 100 myofibers at baseline, which did not change post-training, nor did their hypertrophy.
A different article by Bamman using the same researchers involving the exact same experiment showed that out of 66 subjects, the top 17 responders experienced a 58% gain in cross-sectional area, the middle 32 responders gained 28% cross-sectional area, and the bottom 17 responders didn't gain in cross-sectional area. In addition:
• Mechanogrowth factor (MGF) upregulated 126% in the top 17 responders and 0% in the bottom 17 responders.
• Myogenin upregulated 65% in the top 17 responders and 0% in the bottom 17 responders.
• IGF-IEa upregulated 105% in the top 17 responders and only 44% in the bottom 17 responders.
Research by Timmons indicates that there are several highly expressed miRNAs that are selectivity regulated in subjects representing the lowest 20% of responders in a longitudinal resistance training intervention study.
Research by Dennis showed that individuals who have high expression of key hypertrophy genes have a distinct adaptive advantage over normal individuals. Individuals with lower baseline expression of key hypertrophy genes showed less adaptations to strength training, despite the fact that training did increase their gene expression in response to exercise.

The Bottom Line

Some folks hit the genetic jackpot, while others have gotten the genetic shaft. Genetically-speaking, anything that negatively impacts the ability of the myofibers to increase their number of myonuclei in response to mechanical loading will reduce hypertrophy and strength potential.
This ranges from the number of signaling molecules, to the cell's sensitivity to the signals, to satellite cell availability, to satellite cell pool expansion, to miRNA regulation. Nutrition and optimal programming play a role in hypertrophy of course, and certain genotypes may be associated with hypertrophy too.

Genetics and Body Fat

Genes can affect fat storage and fat loss by influencing energy intake, energy expenditure, or nutrient partitioning. Researchers have coined the term "obesogenic environment" to describe the manner in which our changes in lifestyle over the past century has exposed our underlying genetic risk factors for excessive adiposity.
Natural selection may have favored those who possessed genes associated with thrifty metabolisms, which would have allowed for survival during times of nutrient scarcity. Now that much of the world has adopted a modern lifestyle characterized by sedentarism and excessive caloric intake, these same genes now contribute to poor health and obesity.

The Research

Bouchard took twelve pairs of twins and subjected them to 84 days over a 100-day period of overfeeding by 1,000 calories per day, for a total of 84,000 excess calories. Subjects maintained a sedentary lifestyle during this time. The average weight gain was 17.86 pounds, but the range went from 9.48 pounds to 29.32 pounds!
Even though each subject adhered to the same feeding schedule, the most metabolically cursed individual gained more than triple the weight than the most metabolically blessed individual, stored 100% of excess calories in his tissues (compared to only 40% tissue storage for the most-blessed individual), and increased abdominal visceral fat by 200% (compared to 0% in the case of the most-blessed individual).
Similar variances were shown by Bouchard with twins consuming constant energy intake while exercising frequently.
Perusse showed that heritability accounts for 42% of subcutaneous fat and 56% of abdominal visceral fat. This means that genetics greatly influence where you store fat, and some individuals have an alarming predisposition to store fat in their abdominal region.
Bouchard and Tremblay estimate that 40% of the variability in resting metabolic rate, thermic effect of food, and energy cost of low-to-moderate intensity exercise is genetically related. They also reported that levels of habitual physical activity are highly influenced by heredity.
Loos and Bouchard proposed that obesity has a genetic origin, and that sequence variations in adrenergic receptors, uncoupling proteins, the peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor, and lepton receptor genes were of particular relevance.
O'Rahilly and Farooqi add that the insulin VNTR and IGF-1 SNPs may be implicated in obesity as well, and Cotsapas showed 16 different loci that affect body mass index (BMI) which are all linked to extreme obesity as well. Rankinen mapped out hundreds of possible gene candidates that could promote obesity.
Fawcett and Barroso showed that the fat mass and obesity-associated gene (FTO) is the first universally accepted locus unequivocally associated with adiposity. FTO deficiency protects against obesity, and elevated levels increase adiposity most likely due to increased appetite and decreased energy expenditure.
Tercjak adds that FTO may affect insulin resistance too, and suggests that over 100 genes influence obesity. Herrerra and Lindgren list 23 genes that are associated with obesity, and suggest that heredity accounts for 40-70% of BMI!
Faith found evidence for genetic influences on caloric intake. Similar conclusions were drawn by Choquette, who examined 836 subjects' eating behaviors and found six genetic links to increased caloric and macronutrient consumption, including the adiponectin gene.
What's all that mean? It mans that some individuals are genetically predisposed to adiposity and abdominal fat storage.
But are some folks born to be great athletes while others are born to warm the bench? Let's find out.

Genetics and Athleticism


While we still have much to learn about genetics as it relates to human performance, we do know that many different genes can affect performance.
Bray et al. (2009) mapped out the current knowledge of human genes that affect performance as of 2007 and concluded that 214 autosomal genes and loci as well as 18 mitochondrial genes appear to influence fitness and performance.
The most popular performance-enhancing gene is ACTN3, also known as alpha-actin-3.

There are two alpha-actin proteins: ACTN2 and ACTN3. Alpha actins are structural proteins of the z-lines in muscle fibers, and while ACTN2 is expressed in all fiber types, ACTN3 is preferentially expressed in type IIb fiber types. These fibers are involved in force production at high velocities, which is why ACTN3 is associated with powerful force production.
Approximately 18% of individuals, or one billion people worldwide, are completely deficient in ACTN3 and their bodies create more ACTN2 to make up for the absence. These individuals just can't explode as quickly as their alpha-actin-3-containing counterparts, as elite sprinters are almost never alpha-actin-3 deficient (Yang).
The ACE gene, also known as the antiotensin converting enzyme, has also been implicated in human performance. An increase in the frequency of the ACE D allele is associated with power and sprint athletes, while an increased frequency of the ACE I allele is associated with endurance athletes (Nazarov).
Cauci showed that the variants of the VNTR IL-1RN gene is associated with improved athleticism. This gene affects the interleukin family of cytokines and enhances the inflammatory response and repair process following exercise. The work of Reichman lends support to this research, as they found that the interleukin-15 protein and receptor were associated with increased muscle hypertrophy.
Plenty of other genes exhibit potential to improve athletic performance, such as the myostatin gene, but conclusive evidence doesn't yet exist, or we just don't possess a clear enough understanding of the entire puzzle.

Don't Panic, Chicken Legs. You're Not Doomed!


Although the research in this article is pretty scary, I have something to say about it.
First, we all have issues with genetics that we have to work around. Some of us are predisposed to carrying excess fat, some of us are lean but have stubborn areas of fat deposition, some have trouble building muscle, and some are muscular but have weak body parts. Some of us have all of this combined, and nobody has perfect genetics!
My list of genetic curses is a mile long, but despite this I've managed to develop a pretty respectable physique and somewhat impressive strength levels.
Second, the protocols used in the research didn't involve any experimentation, tweaking, and auto-regulatory training. We all need to tweak the variables and figure out our optimal programming methodology.
Some people respond best to variety, some to volume, some to intensity, some to frequency, and some to density. You have to discover the best stimulis for your body, which evolves over time.
And third, I've spoken to my colleagues about this issue and we're all in agreement: we've never trained any individuals who didn't look better after a couple of months of training, assuming they stick with the program. All of them lose fat and gain some muscular shape.
While some individuals have a much easier time than others developing an impressive physique, I've yet to see a lifter who trained in an intelligent manner fail to see any results.
So even if you're a "hard gainer" and you don't respond well, you can and will see results as long as you're consistent and as long as you continue to experiment. Of course, the rate and amount of adaptation is highly influenced by genetics, but sound training methods will always account for a large portion of training effects.
The lesson: Genetics make a difference, but smart training, diet, and supplements can help you maximize what your parents gave you!
 
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Reading it, but after first line saying a guy deadlifted 600 pounds on his first attempt, and another guy benched 300 pounds on his first attempt? i dont believe that.
 
really good article. You can only do what you can.

exactly, that is what i've always said. and then you get those people who say you can do anything, you can look like arnold if you want to. NO YOU CAN'T. if you do not have the genetics to look like arnold, you will never look like arnold. full stop. this is not being negative, this is being realistic. you can only do the best with what you are given.

usually the only people who make comments like 'you can look like arnold, you're just not working hard enough' are themselves genetically gifted, and fail to see that it isn't as easy for everyone else.

Reading it, but after first line saying a guy deadlifted 600 pounds on his first attempt, and another guy benched 300 pounds on his first attempt? i dont believe that.

have to agree with that, i am highly doubtful too. then again, there truly are some genetic freaks out there...
 
Reading it, but after first line saying a guy deadlifted 600 pounds on his first attempt, and another guy benched 300 pounds on his first attempt? i dont believe that.

Read a few interviews with Andy in which he's stated the same thing. Remember he's not "untrained" he played NFL for a number of years during highschool. I'm not as familiar with Dorian, but it seems plausible.
 
It must have been some pretty shit training for people to lose muscular volume. Even if they are never going to win the Mr Olympia (or even a local pageant), everyone can put on some muscle.
 
It must have been some pretty shit training for people to lose muscular volume. Even if they are never going to win the Mr Olympia (or even a local pageant), everyone can put on some muscle.

yeah i thought that part was kinda BS too...

but it is the conclusion of the article which is the most important part IMO
 
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have to agree with that, i am highly doubtful too. then again, there truly are some genetic freaks out there...

Untrained in the powerlifts maybe, but not untrained in general. Ross of Ross Training did a lot of strength work with KB & other strongman-like stuff, but never touched the deadlift. In his first attempt, he pulled well over 500 pounds at 175lb bodyweight, and I believe made close to 600 pounds after a couple of weeks of training the deadlift.

I think most people are held back by plenty of other things before their genetics even get a say. Laziness, lack of discipline, lack of belief in their own abilities, other priorities in life etc.

Of course there are genetic freaks. Paul Anderson and his lifts. Shane Hamman a 350lb lifter could do 5x backflips in a row. But even those genetic freaks work harder than the rest of us.
 
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I think most people are held back by plenty of other things before their genetics even get a say. Laziness, lack of discipline, lack of belief in their own abilities, other priorities in life etc.
Exactly so.

It doesn't matter how awesome your genetic potential is if you sit at home on the couch eating KFC buckets, or in the gym stick to cardio, crunches and curls. And it doesn't matter how shit your genetic potential is if you get under the iron and lift heavy and eat lots of good food, you will get stronger - maybe not as strong or as quickly as someone else could, but you'll be shitloads stronger than you were before you started training.
 
But even those genetic freaks work harder than the rest of us.

Here's how one genetic freak (Paul Anderson) used to work out, 4 years into weight training:

In 1955 Paul was training six days a weak, using the light and heavy system.

A typical Anderson workout usually required three to four hours to complete.

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday

Full squat - 600 - 2x10
825 - 2 reps
845 - 2 reps
900 - 2 reps
Half squats - 1200 - 2 reps
Quarter squats - 1800 - 2 reps
Deadlift - 650 - 4x6-8 reps

Monday, Wednesday, Friday

Press off rack, 300 - 6 reps
400 - 2 reps
390 - 2 reps
370 - 2 reps
Press outs, 500 pounds, several sets of 4 reps from about the sticking point in the press to overhead.
Press from shoulders to top of head - 500, 4 reps.
Push press off rack - 450, 3 reps.
Bench press - 400 to 450, sets of 6-8 reps.
Handstand presses against wall.

Ignore the insane poundage, just look at the volume & intensity!

I'm not too familiar with bodybuilders, but I've heard similar stories about Coleman or Yates working super hard, harder than any of us who's ever bitched about having poor genetics.
 
kyle and dancelot, there are two general fields of opinion on this:

1) genes are everything - with perfect genes you barely have to touch a weight, without perfect genes you will always be small/weak
2) genes are nothing - everyone can look like a pro or be the worlds strongest man if they try hard enough

you two strongly oppose 1), i strongly oppose 2).

but i think we all agree the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

obviously, having awesome genes makes it a LOT easier, you grow faster, you recover quicker (especially with gear etc). this in turn means you can train harder as well (yes, recovery is genetic too, some ppl recover much, much quicker than others REGARDLESS of diet). thats not to say that they still don't train extremely hard, they just get more bang for their buck so to speak. which in itself, motivates them to train harder as they can see progress almost DURING their workouts.

and obviously people can still achieve amazing things with ordinary genetics. i have gained 50% bodyweight since i started with what i would class ordinary genes. i don't let my genes hold me back, but i also accept that i'll never look like arnie. there is no debating that.

to summarise what i said before, you can only do the best with what you have got. but as has already been mentioned, most never reach their genetic limit anyway
 
No, I strongly oppose both.

What I say about "genetics" is that it's another word for "I dunno." There exists no laboratory test to discover whether this or that person has the genetic potential to do some particular thing. The only way for a person to find out is for them to try.

Thus, when we say "it's genetics", what we are actually saying is, "I don't know why this person has succeeded and this other one has failed."

So what I say is that if a person wants to excel at something, the only way they can discover their potential is to try it and see. Can I be as smart as Einstein? Probably not. But with effort and education, I can certainly be smarter than I am now. Can I be as strong as (say) Paul Anderson? Probably not. But with effort over time, I can be stronger than I am now.

Not everyone has the potential to be the best. But we certainly have the potential to be better. Just how much better? I have no idea - and neither do the people who talk about "genetics". All we can do is try it and see.
 
Pistachio, x2. Powerlifting standards aren't mega high because barely anyone powerlifts, I reckon most could hit the 'elite' numbers given in the basic standards thread.

Bodybuilding is just a different kettle of fish all together. On a certain special site I see guys my age posting pics of Frank Young in their 'how would you like to look?' thread all the time. Whats mega sad is that when they got into bodybuilding they didn't want to look like that in the first place.
 
surely genetics play a part, how big a part im not certain.

I think it would be a percentage though, and you will always need to include
training, diet, lifestyle and genetics.
I don't think having really good of only 1 of the above would ever get you anywhere.

ie:
if someone is genetically a faster running than me,
if we did everything the same they would be faster,
but if I train harder longer, eat better etc it might be a closer race.

my 2c
 
You hear stories of football players and cricketers who had siblings that apparently played better then them as a child/teenager. This is called raw talent. Alcohol and laziness takes over and the one that trained hard consistently became the famous sports person.

No one ever just walks into a race/game/event and wins without training hard.

So lets worry about your genetics when you have been training hard and consistently for over a decade, and more. Until then worry about what you can control, like diet and training.
 
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Obviously an individuals genetic make up has an impact on their athletic performance. Some individuals naturally have more fast twitching muscle fibers than others, some have more slower fibers. I'm under the assumption that while training you don't actually generate more fast twitching fibers when doing that type of work.


Kyle, could you become smart like Einstine? Could you become strong like Paul Anderson? I guess the answer is a bit subject hey..............
 
Kyle, could you become smart like Einstine? Could you become strong like Paul Anderson? I guess the answer is a bit subject hey..............
As I said, probably not.

But I can definitely be smarter and stronger than I am now. Exactly how much I can never know. I just have to give it a go, if that's what interests me.

In bodybuilding, "genetics" is really three things,
  1. just another way to say, "that person looks good"
  2. an excuse for lazy people to not bother working hard
  3. a way for a drug-abusing bodybuilder to pretend they're not abusing drugs.
The first is harmless, the other two are bullshit.
 
I'm inclined to think the article was pretty even handed. Contreras went out of his way to say that genetic potential should never hold anyone back from doing or enjoying something - simply that people should be realistic and aware of the potential for completely different results when all other things are equal.
 
kyle do you even like this stuff? your always very negative.

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here is the comments page about the article on t-nation
 
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