No problem thx for taking the time to reply and the advice hopefully someone is intersted in helping me intime by Summer i have Trained Natraul all my life so its no big deal just want to see what i am capeble of maybe just arrogance of a Bodybuilder but i Belive i have got what it Takes to put alot of the utubers and professionals bodybuilders to shame i have not much ele in my life to Aim for and body building is the one thing where money and status in life dose not matter it can only be earned by hardwork not bought or given to you. i have 18inch biceps Natraul i won't to see if i can get to 22 lol and just be in the best shape of my life something to look back on and say yer thats what i Acivhived before that window shuts 8 yrs before im 50 .