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zyzz hahahahahah fuck,,

He needs more back work, his shoulders will thank him in later years... other than that, good for him.
 
a lot of hate in this thread....

i agree with oli, he has a better build than most of the population, and it is definitely more in line with a physique that chicks actually like. he is probably still 'too big' for a lot of chicks even at that size.

i would love to look like that, i wonder if it is doable naturally and with average genes..

The too big for alot of chicks doesnt mean anything.

If your huge go out on the goldy or perth hahahaha chicks love big roided out ****s.
 
Forget zyzz...
That guy is the biggest knob..

surely you've come across the epic thread on SS some time back?

McDonald? yeah he failed pretty hard there. He knows the area he specialises in inside out though (diet/nutrition), I'd say he's only second to Hale and Aragon.
 
LMAO at Lyle McDonald's adolescent rant at Rippetoe. Next time I wanna cover myself in glory I'll use LM as my inspiration. He's a Douchehead.....twice as fucked up as a douchebag or dickhead.
 
I swear some of those forum owners/moderators use troll accounts to get the traffic numbers higher on their forum.... All it takes is one bullshit post about someone well known and next thing 26 pages of crap....
 
I swear some of those forum owners/moderators use troll accounts to get the traffic numbers higher on their forum.... All it takes is one bullshit post about someone well known and next thing 26 pages of crap....



i'm sure stuff like that happens all the time! Pretty clever marketing tool!
 
I swear some of those forum owners/moderators use troll accounts to get the traffic numbers higher on their forum.... All it takes is one bullshit post about someone well known and next thing 26 pages of crap....

That would be smart, but Lyle was having a go a Rip on his own forum first.

Don't think the SS forums would need a troll account anyway, the guys of that forum worship Rip.
 
zyzz - so that's what people called humour these days? There was no canned laughter to remind me that it's supposed to be funny.

Lyle McD - that guy seriously understands nothing about training. Zach's progress is pretty normal for a novice.
 
zyzz - so that's what people called humour these days? There was no canned laughter to remind me that it's supposed to be funny.

Lyle McD - that guy seriously understands nothing about training. Zach's progress is pretty normal for a novice.

Just looking at the photos I agree with it being classed as normal progress. Its easy to go from being absolutley skinny to over 200lbs. Especially while you are young and growing naturally, and drinking lots of milk! :D
 
What gave Lyle away is his questioning of the young fella's squats. Going from squatting 80kgx5 to squatting 150kg 5RM at 110kg BW after 6 months of serious linear progression training under a good coach is nothing extraordinary, it's just about right.
 
Look Lyle made a boo boo. Fair enough, he was a fairly shit powerlifter and was out of his league.

Lyle's books however are well researched and suggest some very practical approaches to diet, far from the 'no carbs at night to stop the carb fairies' bs the John Pain guy puts out.

On lifting I go to:
Training = Rippetoe, Wendler
Nutrition = Aragon, and to a lesser extent McDonald.
 
The "f$%k you, Mark" thread was a ripper!!

UFC 130: McDonald V Rippetoe
 
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What gave Lyle away is his questioning of the young fella's squats. Going from squatting 80kgx5 to squatting 150kg 5RM at 110kg BW after 6 months of serious linear progression training under a good coach is nothing extraordinary, it's just about right.
As I have previously mentioned, such results are indeed extraordinary, that is, the ordinary trainee doesn't achieve them - so much so that if they do, people either claim fraud or drug use.

This is simply because most people, even those with trainers, are not engaged in progressive resistance training. That is, they chop and change their exercises all the time so can't progress on them, or else if they do the same exercises, they do the same weight, sets and reps, or at best they push themselves on 1 or 2 favourite exercises like bench and curl, and slack off on the rest.

Since most people in gyms are not engaged in progressive resistance training, they don't get the benefits of progressive resistance training. So when people look around gyms, they figure that lifting weights is useless, and they get warped ideas of what's possible.

Like the trainer who accused my client of using steroids, when Lyle says Zach's results are impossible, what he's really saying is, "when I train people, they never get results like that." He's admitting that he's a crap trainer.
 
What results were outrageous enough so that the trainer accused your client of using steroids may I ask?
 
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