whatever, like I said, I personally know few who ever got less than around 15% strength gain, so there.
You may turn subject into a riddle, I am only pointing to experience and observation.
it is possible some men may get less, say 5-10%, but I think they would be in minority, unless doing other critical factors wrong, like too low dosage, few calories and overtraining.
but we are not talking about rocket science, most athletes who take get fundamentals reasonably right.
now I have pointed t experience and observation ,so I think you should take this on board rather than listen to those who say they have never taken.
Let us see what others admit to in terms of benefit, say oni.
PS, my observations only refer to experienced male trainers who had a good background before they took drugs. I also only refer to athletes; pro bb's may even get more benefit given their willingness to do whatever it takes to look HUGE.