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new to bb is this diet ok

exactamundo lol sure its usefull oli but it lacks any other macro's that come with it. not to mention the fat content which has its purposes too... most people just add it to milk anyway to up the protein content.. if their diet is designed in a way that they need to add a higher amount of protein then sure its a great way to do it, but imo natural is always better :)
 
LOL!

Full cream milk has been proven to be one the best weight gainers there is and when someone is trying to build mass as quickly as what he wants I think big glasses of milk and peanut butter sandwiches will go a long way to helping him reach his target weight.

Havent had the opportunity to try this myself, and probably never will. But if i needed to gain weight i would be investing in a cow.

That would be your best bet, milk increases IGF-1 in the liver... This is the job of Growth hormone, when growth hormone is excreted the liver creates IGF-1 and IGF-1 is what does all the work at a cellular level GH is just a trigger...

So since it works on all cells unless your diet is full of cancing fighters then it is likley that it will also work on cancer cells and icnrease their numbers. Remember we all have cancer cells in our bodies everyday. The only difference between a manifestation or tumour is simply a matter of how much the immune system can keep up fighting the cancer cells and also how many we decide to make from our lifestyle....
 
Im a iddiot looking for the answers here not picking a debate, wots the difference between whole milk and processed milk?
Again im looking for someone to explain so i understand, i just thought it was homonogiesed (put thro a big preasure machine that broke up th fat cells so all the milk tasted creamy rite the way thro, not just the cream riseing to the top).
Just curious to further ones knowledge...ha ha
 
Im a iddiot looking for the answers here not picking a debate, wots the difference between whole milk and processed milk?
Again im looking for someone to explain so i understand, i just thought it was homonogiesed (put thro a big preasure machine that broke up th fat cells so all the milk tasted creamy rite the way thro, not just the cream riseing to the top).
Just curious to further ones knowledge...ha ha


Processing Is the Problem

Dr Joseph Mercola


The path that transforms healthy milk products into allergens and carcinogens begins with modern feeding methods that substitute high-protein, soy-based feeds for fresh green grass and breeding methods to produce cows with abnormally large pituitary glands so that they produce three times more milk than the old fashioned scrub cow. These cows need antibiotics to keep them well.
Their milk is then pasteurized so that all valuable enzymes are destroyed (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium).
Literally dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process. Without them, milk is very difficult to digest. The human pancreas is not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other diseases.
The butterfat of commercial milk is homogenized, subjecting it to rancidity. Even worse, butterfat may be removed altogether. Skim milk is sold as a health food, but the truth is that butter-fat is in milk for a reason.
Without it the body cannot absorb and utilize the vitamins and minerals in the water fraction of the milk. Along with valuable trace minerals and short chain fatty acids, butterfat is America's best source of preformed vitamin A.
Synthetic vitamin D, known to be toxic to the liver, is added to replace the natural vitamin D complex in butterfat. Butterfat also contains re-arranged acids which have strong anti-carcinogenic properties.
Non-fat dried milk is added to 1% and 2% milk. Unlike the cholesterol in fresh milk, which plays a variety of health promoting roles, the cholesterol in non-fat dried milk is oxidized and it is this rancid cholesterol that promotes heart disease.
Like all spray dried products, non-fat dried milk has a high nitrite content. Non-fat dried milk and sweetened condensed milk are the principle dairy products in third world countries; use of ultra high temperature pasteurized milk is widespread in Europe. Other Factors Regarding Milk

Milk and refined sugar make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country. That may seem like an overly harsh statement, but when one examines the evidence, this is a reasonable conclusion.
The recent approval by the FDA of the use of BGH (Bovine Growth Hormone) by dairy farmers to increase their milk production only worsens the already sad picture.
BGH causes an increase in an insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) in the milk of treated cows. IGF-1 survives milk pasteurization and human intestinal digestion. It can be directly absorbed into the human bloodstream, particularly in infants.
It is highly likely that IGF-1 promotes the transformation of human breast cells to cancerous forms. IGF-1 is also a growth factor for already cancerous breast and colon cancer cells, promoting their progression and invasiveness.
It is also possible for us to absorb the BGH directly from the milk. This will cause further IGF-1 production by our own cells.
BGH will also decrease the body fat of cows. Unfortunately, the body fat of cows is already contaminated with a wide range of carcinogens, pesticides, dioxin, and antibiotic residues. When the cows have less body fat, these toxic substances are then transported into the cows' milk.
BGH also causes the cows to have an increase in breast infections for which they must receive additional antibiotics.
Prior to BGH, 38%of milk sampled nationally was already contaminated by illegal residues of antibiotics and animal drugs. This will only increase with the use of BGH. One can only wonder what the long term complications will be for drinking milk that has a 50% chance it is contaminated with antibiotics.
There is also a problem with a protein enzyme called xanthine oxidase which is in cow's milk. Normally, proteins are broken down once you digest them.
However, when milk is homogenized, small fat globules surround the xanthine oxidase and it is absorbed intact into your blood stream. There is some very compelling research demonstrating clear associations with this absorbed enzyme and increased risks of heart disease.
Ear specialists frequently insert tubes into the ear drums of infants to treat recurrent ear infections. It has replaced the previously popular tonsillectomy to become the number one surgery in the country.
Unfortunately, most of these specialists don't realize that over 50% of these children will improve and have no further ear infections if they just stop drinking their milk.
This is a real tragedy. Not only is the $3,000 spent on the surgery wasted, but there are some recent articles supporting the likelihood that most children who have this procedure will have long term hearing losses.
It is my strong recommendation that you discontinue your milk products. If you find this difficult, I would start for several weeks only, and reevaluate how you feel at that time.
This would include ALL dairy, including skim milk and Lact-Aid milk, cheese, yogurt, and ice cream. If you feel better after several weeks you can attempt to rotate small amounts of one form of milk every four days.
You probably are wondering what will happen to your bones and teeth if you stop milk. The majority of the world's population takes in less than half the calcium we are told we need and yet they have strong bones and healthy teeth.
Cows' milk is rich in phosphorous which can combine with calcium -- and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk. The milk protein also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys.
This is also true when you eat large amount of meat and poultry products. Vegetarians will need about 50% less calcium than meat eaters because they lose much less calcium in their urine.
It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables (where do you think the cow gets their's from?). The darker the better. Cooked collard greens and kale are especially good. If you or your child is unable to take in large amounts of green vegetables, you might want to supplement with calcium.
If you can swallow pills, we have an excellent, inexpensive source called Calcium Citrate, which has a number of other minerals which your body requires to build up maximally healthy bone.
It is much better than a simple calcium tablet. You can take about 1,000 mg a day. For those who already suffer from osteoporosis, the best calcium supplement is microcrystalline hydroxyapatite.
It is also important that you take vitamin D in the winter months from November to March. Normally your skin converts sunshine to vitamin D, but the sunshine levels in the winter are very low unless you visit Florida or Mexico type areas.
Most people obtain their vitamin D from milk in the winter; so if you stop it, please make sure you are taking calcium with vitamin D or a multi vitamin with vitamin D to prevent bone thinning.
Most people are not aware that the milk of most mammals varies considerably in its composition. For example, the milk of goats, elephants, cows, camels, wolves, and walruses show marked differences, in their content of fats, protein, sugar, and minerals. Each was designed to provide optimum nutrition to the young of the respective species. Each is different from human milk.
In general, most animals are exclusively breast-fed until they have tripled their birth weight, which in human infants occurs around the age of one year. In no mammalian species, except for the human (and domestic cat) is milk consumption continued after the weaning period. Calves thrive on cow milk. Cow's milk is designed for calves.
Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne.
It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.
Hopefully, you will reconsider your position on using milk as a form of nourishment. Small amounts of milk or milk products taken infrequently, will likely cause little or no problems for most people.
However, the American Dairy Board has done a very effective job of marketing this product. Most people believe they need to consume large, daily quantities of milk to achieve good health. NOTHING could be further from the truth.
Public health officials and the National Dairy Council have worked together in this country to make it very difficult to obtain wholesome, fresh, raw dairy products. Nevertheless, they can be found with a little effort. In some states, you can buy raw milk directly from farmers.
Whole, pasteurized, non-homogenized milk from cows raised on organic feed is now available in many gourmet shops and health food stores. It can be cultured to restore enzyme content, at least partially. Cultured buttermilk is often more easily digested than regular milk; it is an excellent product to use in baking.
Many shops now carry whole cream that is merely pasteurized (not ultra pasteurized like most commercial cream); diluted with water, it is delicious on cereal and a good substitute for those allergic to milk.
Traditionally made creme fraiche (European style sour cream), it also has a high enzyme content.
 
Did it look like a joke, just say what you want to say Derka without patronising everybody?

Plenty of guys drink full fat milk, I don't, he can if he wished to add calories.


I thought it was a joke? Go f*ck yourself Shrek your an asshole. You have no idea about anything bodybuilding related so maybe study up on it before making yourself look completely stupid why do you chime in when you have no idea. If you fire at me be prepared to take it that's the rule. Patronising you implied something before finding the facts
 
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IRL said:
Mercola has received two warnings from the FDA for marketing nutritional products in a manner which violated the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.[4][5] A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial criticized Mercola's marketing practices as "relying on slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[6]

Despite a lack of empirical evidence, he promotes religion and prayer as having health benefits, and focuses strongly on studies[50] that advocate this position.

LOL

Also found out he got charged with a pretty big lawsuit that ended in 'mutual agreement'.

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LOL

Also found out he got charged with a pretty big lawsuit that ended in 'mutual agreement'.

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Spirituality = more often then not relaxation and relaxation what? Less stress hormones...

Yes yoga lowers cortsiol you going to sue me?

**** the fda they can suck my cock...

The reason there are charges is the fda states " only a drug can cure treat or prevent any disease" Thus a nutritional supplement cannot..

Anyone see anything wrong with this? If i have scurvy what do i take? Not vitamin c, it cant cure a disease...

I have explained this sooooooo many times here... But people are underthe impretion that a double blind placebo study instantly makes something true... Well it was always true before the study. How can you double blind placebo lifestlye changes? You cant...

Yes healthy eating and lfiestyle cures cancer and diabetes.. come sue me i siad it .
 
I thought that it was illegal for raw milk to be sold commercially. Where would one have to look if they wanted to find it?

Nic.

Good we dont want to buy commercial rubbish anyway.

Im not sure look at alot of organic or farmers markets... or even google something.

Cant sell raw milk but can buy a carton of ciggarettes? How sad...
 
drink your milk, but you will gain a fair bit of unwanted bodyfat to go with that 'bulk' imo (depending on the rest of your diet ofcourse)
 
I thought that it was illegal for raw milk to be sold commercially. Where would one have to look if they wanted to find it?

Nic.

It's illegal, and by judging from this article heavy fines are issued...

h t tp :// w ww. onfood. com .au /Articles/tabid/58/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/506/Raw-milk-product-seller-fined.aspx

I put spaces in it as I am not allowed to post URL's due to my post count.

Cheers
 
It's illegal, and by judging from this article heavy fines are issued...

h t tp :// w ww. onfood. com .au /Articles/tabid/58/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/506/Raw-milk-product-seller-fined.aspx

I put spaces in it as I am not allowed to post URL's due to my post count.

Cheers

Yeah but we dont care about that crap...
 
Back in the 50's milk GOMAD was common young people underweight was a problem- it was a cheap rich source of protein, it was raw, it was readibly available.

I would not encourage a young person to follow gomad today.
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By 'raw milk' do you mean straight off the farm, from the cow, before it's treated etc?

I remember when I was in year 7, we went to a farm as part of a school camp, and they let the kids have some 'fresh' milk from a vat there. I still remember the smell - probably why 21 years later, I can't drink milk!
 
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