Steroid cycle

[gmang73]

First post,

Okay so I am looking for a good tendon repair cycle and significant/quality strength gains without killing my libido.

I am steered towards
Deca for joint and tendon repair 270% 400-500mg p/w
Equipoise for joint and tendon repair 320% 400-600mg p/w
HGH for collagen s/n repair 4-8 units ed
Test prop for kickstart 50mg eod 1-2 p/w
Test Enethate for libido and strength 100-150mg 1-2p/w:250-300 3-15p/w
Dianabol for kick start and end
I also have stanazol inject which I have not used.

What are your recommendations?
Regards,

G.

 

[gmang73]

So I was also thinking of frontloading the equipoise or not and go for a longer cycle since the test is low.
Has anyone experience with deca and equipoise stacked together?
Pm me if it is preferred.
As Australia seems to want to keep androgens for the sports performers.

G.

 

[0ni]

this won't fix your tendons bro

 

[BrisVegasGhost]

if you do run this cycle, you might want to keep your estro in check.
Your running prop so why throw in dbol as well?
As Oni said this wont fix your tendons
The Stanazol will most likely make them worst.

 

[gmang73]

Ok I will keep the stanazol out, was thinking of running the dbol or the comp prop test 4 ester stack.
the comp prop would be better than the dbol for health reasons.
I was wondering if anyone has stacked deca and equipoise together or should I just use deca then change to equipoise and front load when receptors start shutting down.
Below are details of proven repairs their is more documents on tren although I already have an ager issue so staying away from tren now.
Thanks for your replies


Regards,

G
Anabolic Steroids (AAS) & Joints/Tendons

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i've heard that EQ actually increases tendon strength and can be stacked with test to sort of counter-act the test from impairing the tendons. was planning on including it in my next cycle when winter gets here , wanted to try a lower dose of test (500mg of Enanthate), 600mg of deca/ and a low dose of EQ to keep the tendons strong. the deca is awesome for collagen synthesis and helps with joint pain which is crucial for powerlifting ---- i found an article in my research file ..

While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS --


Anabolic steroids after total knee arthroplasty. A double blinded prospective pilot study

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21159157

Although it goes against common "wisdom", it stands to reason that trenbolone does, in fact, stimulate collagen synthesis, thereby helping your joints.

 

[0ni]

That's fine man, just throw a load of shit together with doses that "feel right", I'm sure it will work out

If you want my opinion then I'd run something like this
I'd have testosterone at 250mg a week, or 200mg every 5 days, whatever dose you have I don't know the dose per ml but between 200-400mg a week just pop a ml or get it in this range it doesn't really matter
I'd use boldenone, not for "joint repair" but because it's a great anabolic that increases RBC count giving you great pumps. I'd run this at 400mg a week, assuming it's 200/ml. You'll want 400-600mg but there is no reason to run this high at all
HGH is good but really there is no reason to go above a few UI post training
Insulin will be very important for you also. 1ui/10g of carbs post training but no more than 10ui a day. You want this 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off

Timing for your shit is really not important, ignore anything about drug timing it's bullshit. Just have your biggest meal post training with lots of carbs and pop your HGH and slin with it. Use a fast acting insulin, the pens are great and very cheap and easy to find in Australia.

Keep your training very voluminous and go for a max pump, especially in the areas you're trying to fix. You won't be making mad gains in this cycle- focus about getting healthy first

 

[gmang73]

Oni,

I have test comp 250mg/ml 4 esters I ran half a ml so 125mg or half a ml although the esters will drop at different times I will faze this after 2-4 weeks
and am also injecting 75ml or just over .2 of a ml and will increase this and decrease the comp so I have more immediate assimilation.
I ran 2ml or 500mg or deca and after 2 weeks I will start nolva for the estrogen conversion till end of cycle.
I will run out of deca after 10 weeks so I will start the equipoise probably on week 6 ish and then run for at least 10-14 weeks at 400-600mg or 2-3ml.
Have you any experience of deca and equipoise are there any contradictions?
I am running 4 units of hgh daily.
I have never run insulin as I have not researched it yet.
AGAIN THANKYOU

 

[0ni]

You've bought all this already?
Don't pin half a ml, it's a fucking waste as you'll get more stuck in the pin
Just pin the sustanon once a week or every 5 days. You won't get massive peaks and troughs- it's fine at once a week
The nandrolone is 250/ml? 1ml once every 5 days is plenty here
Running nandrolone and boldenone together is fine but there is simply no reason to run this much gear
What you need to do is just take what you've bought, half the dosages and run it for twice as long. So that will be like this:

Testosterone blend 250mg / 5 days
Nandrolone decanoate 250mg / 5 days
Boldenone undecanoate 200mg / 5 days
HGH 2ui on off days, 4ui post training
Optional insulin 10ui post workout with at least 100g of carbs (mix whole flour in your protein shake, add some sugar then eat a meal) - run this 2 weeks on, 2 off. Never more than 10ui a day or you'll get resistant

This will get you the results you want, get you healthy and you'll be able to put all the oils in one pin to minimise injections as much as possible. Take a 4 week break from the steroids after about 12 weeks, take your orals during this time.

Hope this helps

 

[0ni]

Also everything will start working pretty fucking fast. You won't need to front load or take orals at the start. I have no idea why this myth came about but everything will start working as soon as you start taking it. Generally people feel pretty damn good the day after a testosterone enanthate shot lol

better off saving your money and buying gh, test, nandrolone, tren, masteron, dbol, arimidex, and Viagra

 

[gmang73]

Saving

Also everything will start working pretty fucking fast. You won't need to front load or take orals at the start. I have no idea why this myth came about but everything will start working as soon as you start taking it. Generally people feel pretty damn good the day after a testosterone enanthate shot lol

better off saving your money and buying gh, test, nandrolone, tren, masteron, dbol, arimidex, and Viagra

Oni,

Front loading is supposed to be good for boldenone undecanate and I have run a cycle doing the fornt and had good results although still ran it a long time 19 weeks at 500mg every week after the initial dose of about 1500mg.
I ran the test low just under 200mg as I found the original document for tendon repair says stay below this.
As test enethate has a half life of 11.5 days I was going to pin it every 6 days although some books state what you say and to pin every 5 days.
I have gh and test and nandrolene and masteron and dbol and arimidex no Viagra and gave my trib away although I may reinvest in the tren.

I had excellent results from the last cycle of low test 200mg a week with 500mg of equipoise for 19 weeks and kept most gains and no shit pct all good.
I am a believer in longer less gear or less test anyway.
Again thanks.
G.

 

[0ni]

You won't need to frontload
Its a myth perpetuated so that people can sell more roids
If you do what I said above you'll get the results that you want. Don't worry about the collagen synthesis from test as you'll be on both nandrolone AND boldenone AND gh lol. Get a massive pump in the area and eat plenty you'll be fine.

I'm a really big fan of low test too, if you want then drop it then fine but 250mg every 5 days will still be great for what you want, imo

What exactly is the injury?

 

[MarcusAAS]

PM me guy's

I'll send you through an excel file with medically proven cycles and stack for any application.

 

[gmang73]

Oni,

I was hit by a car, a full knee dislocation so ACL PCL MEDIAL BICEP FEMORIS MINISCUS all badly torn the best knee surgeon in brisvegas had not seen anything like it in 5 years.
I also believe heavily in low test.
I am thinking of running the Deca and the Boldenone and then after about 8 weeks change to the nandrolene and stay on boldenone for another 6-8. and run the hgh for a while then break then go back on the off cycle to retain and gain.
I would appreciate more help and more finding of tendon repair.
I can honestly say I would not have a job if I did not use steroids.
Regards,

G.

 

[batcho101]

The gh on its own will be great for growth and repair.