As a pilosophy?
I just don't think science has done anything good.
Name something, don't say penicillin.
As a pilosophy?
I just don't think science has done anything good.
Name something, don't say penicillin.
On topic, there ain't much science in the "palaeo" diet. It's more just some bloke thumping his chest and saying, "men! eat meat! ugh!" Yeah, whatever.
This link does not work.For a grounding in the 'science' behind a paleo approach to eating have a read of this.
Absolutely I have had a look through, and I've read several books advocating this and similar diets. It's professional - even if I know it's bollocks, I have to be familiar with it because people I'm training will say "have you heard about..." etc.It strikes me you didn't even have a cursory glance through the links I provided above (not to say you should have, but if you're going to make a claim like you just did it might have been a good idea).
It's based partly on studies dealing with individual inputs. That's one problem with the subject of nutrition.pseudonym said:To say that there ain't much science in the 'paleo diet' shows you've not taken much time to understand what exactly 'paleo' eating is all about. It's not a laboratory creation of course but it is based on some fairly well researched truths to do with the human body and it's response to different inputs (food, toxins etc).
Rob Wolf may think so, but it's just not been shown. Large chunks of the world's population gets well over half their daily calories, protein and carbohydrates from grains. Not much lack of sleep, autoimmune disease and diabetes in rural India and China.pseudonym said:For instance grains (and the gluten therein in particular) generally have a very strong inflammatory action in almost everybody (celiacs being the most obvious example but most people have some sort of reaction to them) and by cutting them out almost everybody will see a benefit (reduced instance of autoimmune disease, better insulin sensitivity, better sleep).
The thing is that this is a large part of the books written on the diet, and a larger part still of the advertising for them. I didn't write these books and adverts, it's not my fault if they want to babble on about what is "natural" to humans. They argue from history, but they don't even know history. Og the caveman had more grains and less meat than they think. And anyway he died before 30, so perhaps not the best example for us.pseudonym said:With all due respect if you still believe that the 'paleo diet' is prefaced upon some arbitrary notion of what we think 'Og' used to eat well then I am not sure what more needs to be said.
Absolutely I have had a look through, and I've read several books advocating this and similar diets. It's professional - even if I know it's bollocks, I have to be familiar with it because people I'm training will say "have you heard about..." etc.
It's based partly on studies dealing with individual inputs. That's one problem with the subject of nutrition.
In most of science, in experimenting they try to hold everything constant and vary just one thing and see what happens. From this they make conclusions about the effects of that one thing. The difficulty is that the human body is more complex than that.
... Large chunks of the world's population gets well over half their daily calories, protein and carbohydrates from grains. Not much lack of sleep, autoimmune disease and diabetes in rural India and China.
Rob Wolf is a former research biochemist. Google scholar shows us that he is or was interested in phospholipids - those are the compounds that form cell walls. Important stuff, no doubt, but nutritionist he ain't.
So Wolf's just another example of some guy who decides that this food is the source of most of the West's health problems, or that food could solve all those same problems. We get this for milk, food colouring, meat, all sorts of stuff. And from that decision he decides that he can make a fair wad of cash pushing his diet book and consultations.
The simple fact is that human beings are bloody versatile. Through the world and history we have lived on a huge variety of diets and done well on them. The key thing is to get the nutrients in you, a bit of everything. Whether you do that without or without meat or grains or nuts or fruit or vegetables or whatever doesn't seem to be a big deal.
I did try to read this but found myself scratching out my eyes.
Also a book of good reading, two books:
"good calories bad calories"
and an excellent book everyone should have, "muscle, smoke and mirrors"
this is the best book I have read to date, fascinating and educational.
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