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Dan Green article

Imma take a trip to Bulgaria and tell Ivan Stoitsov that he a bitch and need to do more reps lol

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Not really sure what that's supposed to prove but I can guarantee you he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets.
 
Not really sure what that's supposed to prove but I can guarantee you he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets.

He is the product of the Bulgarian weightlifting system so he literally just did sets of 1 with the snatch, clean & jerk, front squat, power snatch and powerclean.

But as you can guarantee it apparently, I'd like to see your evidence
 
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He just mentions volume is important and high reps are his preferred way of getting volume in. You can't take this and deduce that low reps are not good for building muscle. My previous training hasn't been anywhere near enough volume and with largely long rest periods. What I'm doing now is +85% of 1RM for as many reps as possible in a certain time frame averaging around 1 rep per minute which is a lot more work than I was doing previously and more work than say, 5x10x50%. Time will tell anyway, it's pointless speculating and doing so is nothing more than a waste of both our time
You just completely contradict yourself here Oni.
And you say you're doing "1 rep per minute" now, what are you lifting in a vacuum or something?
 
He is the product of the Bulgarian weightlifting system so he literally just did sets of 1 with the snatch, clean & jerk, front squat, power snatch and powerclean.

But as you can guarantee it apparently, I'd like to see your evidence

Bullshit Oni, in reality you have no idea exactly how he trained
1 rep sets you say, hilarious
 
Not really sure what that's supposed to prove but I can guarantee you he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets.

I'm not sure how he exactly trained but him being an Olympic lifter I have an idea but how do you guarantee he didn't train with only 2-3 rep sets.
 
Not really sure what that's supposed to prove but I can guarantee you he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets.

I can't beleive i'm getting sucked into this, but have you seen the lower weight class olympic lifters, they are ripped to shreds on comp day, and all have huge quads/back/traps like the above pictures.

In the end, no one in this thread bar Freako is strong enough to be telling others how they should train. Ever notice the biggest, strongest guys aren't on forums talking shit?
 
I'm not sure how he exactly trained but him being an Olympic lifter I have an idea but how do you guarantee he didn't train with only 2-3 rep sets.

You missed this part Bazza.......
"he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets."
 
You missed this part Bazza.......
"he didn't get like that by only doing 2 or 3 rep sets and resting 5 min between sets."

How do you know?

i dont know for sure but being an Olympic lifter, long rest periods are likely.
 
I never said that I'd be resting 5 minutes between sets. Read my fucking log, jesus christ. Yesterday I did 20 reps of deadlifts in 20 minutes, I did 20 shrugs in 10 minutes the previous day, the squat workout before that and the bench workout before that was similar as well. I rest no more than 90 seconds between sets. No idea where you got 5 minutes from
 
I never said that I'd be resting 5 minutes between sets. Read my fucking log, jesus christ. Yesterday I did 20 reps of deadlifts in 20 minutes, I did 20 shrugs in 10 minutes the previous day, the squat workout before that and the bench workout before that was similar as well. I rest no more than 90 seconds between sets. No idea where you got 5 minutes from

Are you going to the Dan Green seminar?
 
I'd be asking him what *did* he do to get to this point.

I think a lot of people focus too much on what their idols do now, rather than what they did.
 
haha, this shit is literally hilarious

West of Westside - Juggernaut Training Systems - Juggernaut Training Systems

See if you're noticing a common theme here. I'll give some cliff notes:

>Westside did not work
>Avoiding the main lifts got him good at everything but the main lifts
>Training triceps for your bench and not your chest (remember when El Freako said this and everyone proceeded to ignore the fuck out of him?)
>DE / Light shit is worthless
>Increase your frequency and volume
>Benching in a straight line and tucking too hard is silly
>Box squats and good mornings are stupid
>SQUATTING IS A QUAD EXERCISE NOT THE POSTERIOR CHAIN (remember that entire shiteree?)
>Knees should come forwards when you squat
>Start light and build up
>Dicking around with technique is pointless if you're fucking weak

Eric Spoto's Training Routine & Methods for a World Record Bench | LIFT.net

Eric Spotto does 2 light days per week.
 
Cliffs of the argument please?

Darkoz doesn't think that only low reps will build muscle very well, despite literally hundreds of weightlifters with completely ripped quads, shoulders and traps as evidence to the contrary. Apparently you can be 5'10" 77kg and shredded, stick 379kg over your head in two lifts and not be jacked- simply because you didn't do more than 5 reps, a completely arbitrary round number (xiaojun). A decent part of Science and Practice of Strength Training will corroborate this, as will just about every strength athlete on earth
 
Cliffs of the argument please?

Oni embarks on a training method/journey to prove a point/prove everyone wrong.
Nobody disagrees with Oni's point.
Arguement is made that while Onis initial point is valid, theres a more effective route to reach that goal.

Oni uses a top tier lifter to support a completely different point.
Said top tier lifter reinforces that whilst Onis original point isnt incorrect, its not the most effective method to reach that goal.

Hilarity ensues.

Idno what darkoz is on about.
 
I don't think anyone can say with any certainty what the most efficient training is
Most pro bbers are still doing what Weider first published to appear different and edgy compared to Bob Hoffs full body stuff. I prefer to train how the old time strongmen train. Grimek, Max Sick, Sandow and Saxon were beasts
 
You think that fella started his first day of lifting with 2-3 rep sets of only the olympic lifts?

Strangest noob program I've ever heard of.
 
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I would say he did

It's basically what the Chinese do with their 8 year olds lol

Thinking about it from a rep POV, a full body 3 x 10 is 90 reps a week, a weightlifter probably does up to 500 a week so it makes sense the training effect will be greater, even factoring in TUT and the nature of the Olympic lifts
 
Please don't speculate based on fuck all
The Bulgarian training schedules are freely available for viewing on the internet. How they trained their kids is also freely available with a simple search. As novices, they did mainly sports and a shitload of GPP. The lifts were practised with low reps as technique is important at an early age when neural plasticity is at it's highest. Doing high reps kills technique and they build strength in these early years through gymnastics before specialising in their sport
 
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