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I will say though, This was over the course of almost 6 years. I don't do drugs that often at all. Perhaps once a month. I like to experience new things and have rarely touched a drug more than twice. I consider regular drug use much worse
 
I was waiting for Poni to post. Only person I assume who can beat this is Fluffy :D (or Charlie Sheen)

I've had more binges then most people have had hot dinners, I can tell you the most addictive drug around is power and pussy.

Never did heroin thank fuck, saw people have one taste of that shit and within in a week are bowling over old ladies for their purses and selling their own arses for some junk money.

You should try heroin Oni you'd make a good bum boy.
 
Heroin is exactly the same as morphine just acetylated
I already know that feel. I've never injected it though and I imagine the rush is pretty fucking amazing.
Pharma quality heroin is hard to find though and acetic anhydride for making it yourself is even more impossible. Morphine was very addictive however and I would often find myself making opium tea lol. I don't touch opiates any more
 
Heroin is exactly the same as morphine just acetylated
I already know that feel. I've never injected it though and I imagine the rush is pretty fucking amazing.
Pharma quality heroin is hard to find though and acetic anhydride for making it yourself is even more impossible. Morphine was very addictive however and I would often find myself making opium tea lol. I don't touch opiates any more

Physical withdrawal is a fucking humbling experience. I reckon you only got 1 or 2 honest withdrawals in you, saps your spirit too much.

Honestly though drugs are fucked, its too easy to blur the lines between use and addiction. That goes for alcohol as well.
 
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Yeah I remember going on holiday to Malta and taking tramadol with me, enough just to keep me going until I got back. I took the entire 2 weeks worth in 4 days and days 6+7 were horrible. Being hot and cold at the same time and totally restless. Never touched them again after that lol.

Have you ever taken heroic doses of anything? I took 1200/1000 DPH/DXM and had popped a few scopolomine tabs and it was horrible lol. I smoked salvia for some reason near the peak as well. I think I just wanted to escape to another reality because the one I was in was just unbearable. Well, that happened and I relived landing on the beach in WW2. I was on a boat and a Russian soldier. I was 14 years old and had just signed up for the army. People were speaking in Russian but I somehow understood it. I could see the other boats being hit by artillery fire and getting blown up. We landed and were faced by the German army. We did not have any weapons so I had to run for cover. We were threatened with being shot if we retreated. I was forced to find a rifle from a dead body and run over open ground at the German army that was firing at us with machine guns. I ended up getting shot multiple times and it took me several days to die. I know it sounds video game ish but when you're only 14 having never fired a gun before and are forced to advance at machine gun fire while you see your friends and family that you have known your entire life get shot / blown up / mutilated, covered in their blood before having your own arm blown off and shot several times and actually experiencing that, not just seeing it happen it is very frightening especially the aftermath of several days passing in and out of consciousness and being in extreme pain, dying with no-one around to help you or put you out of your misery.

It was the most traumatic experience of my life and took me several months to recover from
 
Yeah I remember going on holiday to Malta and taking tramadol with me, enough just to keep me going until I got back. I took the entire 2 weeks worth in 4 days and days 6+7 were horrible. Being hot and cold at the same time and totally restless. Never touched them again after that lol.

Have you ever taken heroic doses of anything? I took 1200/1000 DPH/DXM and had popped a few scopolomine tabs and it was horrible lol. I smoked salvia for some reason near the peak as well. I think I just wanted to escape to another reality because the one I was in was just unbearable. Well, that happened and I relived landing on the beach in WW2. I was on a boat and a Russian soldier. I was 14 years old and had just signed up for the army. People were speaking in Russian but I somehow understood it. I could see the other boats being hit by artillery fire and getting blown up. We landed and were faced by the German army. We did not have any weapons so I had to run for cover. We were threatened with being shot if we retreated. I was forced to find a rifle from a dead body and run over open ground at the German army that was firing at us with machine guns. I ended up getting shot multiple times and it took me several days to die. I know it sounds video game ish but when you're only 14 having never fired a gun before and are forced to advance at machine gun fire while you see your friends and family that you have known your entire life get shot / blown up / mutilated, covered in their blood before having your own arm blown off and shot several times and actually experiencing that, not just seeing it happen it is very frightening especially the aftermath of several days passing in and out of consciousness and being in extreme pain, dying with no-one around to help you or put you out of your misery.

It was the most traumatic experience of my life and took me several months to recover from

Serious question, has anyone ever spoken to you about schizophrenia?

Sounds like you started heavy tripping young. Its pretty hard to come back from experirnces like that at a young age without doing some damage.

I'm not having a dig either, I'm serious it could be good to talk to someone especially if you still feel the need to bang alot of cones to take the edge off reality.
 
I don't want to be officially labelled with a mental disease. The treatment is terrible and usually drug related (don't want to be on seroquil often). My life is good and I am always happy & content. I've not taken psychoactives other than alcohol for a while now. Although there is a new analogue of the 2C-x family that I really want to try in May
 
I am a "psychonaut" and love trying different drugs and experiencing different things. I keep detailed trip reports of every single chemical that I have taken. I only ever take pharmaceutical grade chemicals either manufactured by myself (easier than it sounds), a friend or bought from a lab/pharmacy. Here is a list of what I have taken and a very brief summary of each one. I've never bought a drug from the streets apart from cannabis.

Cannabis (my favourite drug as it can be used often)
Alcohol (I like this sometimes when I go out but overall I rank it pretty low)

Euphoragenics / Empathogens:
MDMA (a fantastic drug for the first time user. Incredible euphoria and in my top 3. Favourite ROA is 100mg insufflated and 250mg eaten at the same time)
MDA (Pretty nice, it's hard to not compare this to MDMA. Very trippy and I felt like I was watching myself from the corner of the room. 150mg insufflated is very good. Combining with MDMA ruined the MDMA but it goes very well with MDE)
MDE (like MDMA, but more buzz and less empathy)

Psychedelics:
LSD (absolutely incredible, wouldn't recommend to a first time user of psychedelic drugs but is a solid 3rd or 4th trip. Lots of fractals)
2C-b (very "brain" trippyness. Good visuals but not the best)
2C-e (Favourite psychedelic by far. It's like taking LSD with MDMA. The euphoria is amazing. Notible trip was my iTunes playlist moving around then flying out my screen into the middle of the room where it formed a giant 3D rotating skull with the words. Combined with morphine the euphoria was amazing and I just lay in bed squirming around. It was like a full body orgasm)
2C-i (very good first trip. Nice visuals and very "brain" in it's trippyness. Notible trip was the walls of buildings outside were built out of linked wrists)
Salvinorum (Very short and intense. After smoking the effects came on instantly and lasted about 10 minutes. I had complete ego loss on this. Unlike anything else that I have tried completely, hard to describe but it's pretty much like dreaming. You're just in a totally different place, you forget about who you are in real life and it is like the trip is real life. Can be scary because of this but it only lasts a few minutes before you're completely back to normal. Very good for if you have 30 mins to kill and want to experience something new. No two trips are the same)
Psylocin (Incredible. Fantastic colours and wavy visuals)
Psylocybin (Very dark trip but not scary. Goes well with psylocin)
25C-NBOMe (Very much like 2c-i, but different. More like LSD
AMT (very brainy in it's trippyness. My mate was holding a banana and it was really funny watching him realise that the banana was "the reason behind everything" and start worshiping it. Eventually it turned started to go brown and he ate it to consume it's power. It was the best goddamn banana he had ever eaten)
LSA (My very first trip. Didn't really like it and felt sick. After getting home I turned the lights out to go to sleep and the closed eye visuals were amazing. Lots of fractals)
Mescaline (went on way too long for my liking but was a very good trip)
5-MeO-DALT (Dark and scary trip. This is the chemical that some species of toads have in their skin and is the reason why people lick them. Very nice drug)
4-ACO-DMT (very much like psylocin, 10/10)
DMT (amazing experience, very "cosmic" and "self realisationy")
O-acetylpsilocin (Like psilocin. Didn't rate particularly well because I had tried a number of drugs like it already)

CNS Stimulants:
Amphetamine (Very strong euphoria, a great drug for when you're with mates)
Methamphetamine (Too strong for my liking but I can see why people like it)
Methcathinone (Pretty meh)
Ethcathinone (shit)
Methylatedmethcathinone (My favourite stimulant after MDMA. It's like combining MDMA with amphetamines but so much more euphoric)
Ephedrine (pretty shit)
Caffeine (Goes very well with other drugs)
Cocaine (Really great, the euphoria isn't that strong but you just feel amazing)
DMAA (incredibly shitty when taken recreationally. I can't believe people actually take this to go clubbing)

Dissociatives and Delirients:
Ketamine (Very nice, I was floating in just a yellowy-orange and all my furniture was floating around me. I had forgotten that I had taken this initially and found myself getting increasingly pissed off because the computer screen was so damn hard to read. It was like my world was being folded over and over before I went fully into the trip)
Diphenhydramine (Pretty hilarious trip if you like scary stuff. Not very nice on it's own but combined with DXM (below) makes for an amazing trip. I started off by not being able to see my mouse cursor, so I'd move the mouse around to find it before I'd snap back to reality and be at TV, which was off, and just be moving my empty hand around the sofa next to me. It then progressed to me putting a pizza in the oven and going back in 15 minutes to check on it and there being no pizza in the oven and the oven being off. So I'd take it out the freezer and put it in the oven and relight it. In 15 minutes I'd go back and there would be no pizza and the oven would be off. I would try and converse with my friends but random strings of words would come out. I pointed at a birthday card and told my mate that was what a 128bit UNIX filesystem sounded like. Eventually as it progressed I lost total control over reality and walked around fantasy places interacting with demons / shadowpeople and I thought I had died and gone to hell. There was no way of telling what was real and what was a trip)
Dextromethophan (very nice, good body high and laying in bed in the dark you'd see giant spiders walking around the ceilings and walls. I refused to look at my body because I know that I'd have seen a giant spider crawling on top of me and that would be far too scary. Higher doses it's like ketamine)
Promethazine (didn't really like at all)
Nitrous Oxide (incredibly intense and short. Very nice drug)
Scopolomine (Like Diphenhydramine but 100x more scary. Never again but worth it)
Chloroform (like NO, kinda meh)

Cannabinoids:
JWH-018 (gets you completely blitzed)
JWH-122 (strong body high, 9/10 would smoke err day)
JWH-200 (the most stoned I have ever been)
JWH-073 (very nice. I found that mixing all the different JWH's together and vapourising it like that was far superior to doing them individually)
UR-144 (very much like DMT. Doesn't feel like cannabis at all)
XLR-11 (This is the one that had be fall out of bed and think it had snapped in half. Didn't really like it too much I prefer the other cannabinoids)
THC (extracted from cannabis via vapourisation spectrometry. Not very good at all)
CBD (same as THC. You really get the best effects combining lots of cannabinoids together)

Opioids:
Codeine (Exactly like mophine but weaker)
Morphine (strong body high, medium euphoria. Favourite opiate by far)
Oxycodone (medium body high, really euphoric)
Oxymorphone (stronger oxycodone)
Hydrocodone (little body high, medium euphoria)
Hydromorphone (like hydrocodone but stronger)
Thebaine (very nice and long lasting. Adding this with other opioids made it last 12+ hours instead of 2-3 hours)
Thebacon (yes, it's actually called the bacon. Thebaine's metabolite)
Tramadol (very strong euphoria in the brain)
O-desmethyltramadol (tramadols metabolite. Less euphoric though)
Dihydrocodeine (Sort of like a weaker oxycodone)
Dihydromorphine (strong DHC but not like oxycodone really but similar)
Kratom (Very nice to smoke and get a buzz from if you just want to chill)

Benzos:
Alprazolam (short and strong. My legs would keep giving out and walking in a straight line was hard. It's like being really fucking drunk but still having the mental clarity)
Phenazepam (I just fell asleep)
Temazepam (kinda dopey and confusing, didn't really like)
Lorazepam (good for if you just want to chill)
Seroquil (nope.jpg)

Interesting.

None of that sounds fun at all to me.
 
If you're doing them for "fun" then you're probably doing them for the wrong reasons
MDMA is really nice though, I'd recommend that to most people that are willing to drink alcohol. It's a very noob friendly drug and has very few negative effects
 
If you're doing them for "fun" then you're probably doing them for the wrong reasons
MDMA is really nice though, I'd recommend that to most people that are willing to drink alcohol. It's a very noob friendly drug and has very few negative effects

Well, as long as you ignore the whole long term serotonin receptor down regulation thing... (especially if you don't pre-load with a whole lot of 5-HTP)
 
If you're doing them for "fun" then you're probably doing them for the wrong reasons
MDMA is really nice though, I'd recommend that to most people that are willing to drink alcohol. It's a very noob friendly drug and has very few negative effects

If others want to do it its not my problem, just not my thing really.

I'm happy enough with just getting drunk every now and then.
 
I doubt that a single experience of MDMA would negatively effect you
Once a week or more often, maybe. I've never looked into it

Bazza yeah that is pretty normal
 
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I once had a three day bender on Mephedrone (meow meow) when it was still legal. Was amazing for the first day or two, didnt know when to stop coz we never ran out, then started to trip balls hard. Couldn't talk or move for about 4-5 hours at one stage, but was completely aware of my surroundings and people there. Started hallucinating thinking that we were in a big drug bust. Then that kinda faded, then ended up in a car with a mate and was convinced they were setting me up to crash the car and place me as the driver. Long story short ended up staying the night in hospital. Didn't feel myself for the next month or two. Had many many benders before but this was the only time I felt like I didn't have control.

Recreational drug use has been very sporadic since then.
 
I don't want to be officially labelled with a mental disease. The treatment is terrible and usually drug related
yep good point. When I was younger I suffered depression or the like. Stupidly went to the hosiptal cause its free. Got put on to a Doctor. Prescribed some drug. Took one, bombed out like a vegetable, never took another. Sold all my stuff, packed my bags and drove to Sydney (that made me more depressed hahaha). Fck taking those drugs.

I suspect the mental health system is just as bad as mental illness.
 
People say this dumb shit all the time.

If you have depression or a mental illness get fucking checked out. Antidepressants are not all bad. They serve a very important purpose for some people.
 
People say this dumb shit all the time.

If you have depression or a mental illness get fucking checked out. Antidepressants are not all bad. They serve a very important purpose for some people.
I agree with you 1000% (if thats possible) on the get checked out part Bazz. Thats very IMPORTANT.

But the anti-depressant drug I was given made me (emotionally) detached from reality somewhat, I assume thats so people won't neck themselves until a proper diagnosis is made. I also assume thats a part of the Public Health System. They don't want you doing a Martin Byrant or jumping from the local bridge - its more preventative of worse case senario rather than trying to fix what may take a longer time to diagnois.
 
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