OldManMuscle
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Hey girls, try some heavy stiff-legged deadlifts! That's all you need for good hammies and glutes (IMHO).
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0ni
Registered Rustler
While that is true, I was thinking of buying a GHR as I can realistically do a bunch of sets twice a day due to no spinal loading.
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
Was it Dave Tate that basically said stiffies were useless?
OldManMuscle
New member
Whoever Dave Tate is he's dead wrong (no pun intended!).
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
I think he mentioned it in the "101 things that changed at Westside" or something of thy effect
It went along the lines of we dropped SLDL in favour of GHR, reverse hyper, pull throughs, good mornings and box squats
It went along the lines of we dropped SLDL in favour of GHR, reverse hyper, pull throughs, good mornings and box squats
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
Not sure why you think WSB is anti deadlift
They pull every week, and sometimes twice
They pull every week, and sometimes twice
wingman
Super M0derator
i pull nightly
bams_101
New member
Considering RDL's/SLDL's only work the hip extension articulation of the hamstring I'd say that they aren't all you need. So for the time being I'll take the advice of Dave Tate over yours, even though you had quite enthralling argument with some good facts to back up your stance.
This is similar to the new Iron Edge design. It's shit. Good choice on the Force model!
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
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As Bams points out, GHR have the advantage of simultaneously training the hamstrings in hip extension and knee flexion
As Bams points out, GHR have the advantage of simultaneously training the hamstrings in hip extension and knee flexion
0ni
Registered Rustler
doing 6-12 doubles with 50% doesn't count as deadlifting
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
So The Cube doesn't count as deadlifting every week?
Westside they'd have 50% real weight with 10% band weight at the bottom and 20-40% at the top
Not to mention over time they bump up the real weight %s as the lifter gets used to the program (I've also seen them pulling "max" singles on their dynamic day)
Westside they'd have 50% real weight with 10% band weight at the bottom and 20-40% at the top
Not to mention over time they bump up the real weight %s as the lifter gets used to the program (I've also seen them pulling "max" singles on their dynamic day)
0ni
Registered Rustler
It is what you make of it. If I did the cube method or westside I would shoot for a 5RM instead of doing speed work. No I do not count sticking 105kg on the bar and attaching bands and pulling so that you struggle with the lockout for a few singles as deadlifting. Especially if you're pulling sumo. Fuck that shit. They hate deadlifting and will do anything to avoid it, adding band tension is not the same as deadlifting, you don't get that heavy feel from the floor which makes deadlifting what it is
This is made clear by the number of raw 800lb pullers at Westside or people that follow the Westside methods. Compare that to strongman or a lot of the eastern bloc lifters that pull heavy twice a week- raw or equipped as I don't want to turn this into a raw vs equipped argument because that is not the point
This is made clear by the number of raw 800lb pullers at Westside or people that follow the Westside methods. Compare that to strongman or a lot of the eastern bloc lifters that pull heavy twice a week- raw or equipped as I don't want to turn this into a raw vs equipped argument because that is not the point
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My Force GHR arrived today. Pretty decent turn around time considering my order was only placed on Friday. Gym and fitness were great to deal with and were happy to move a little on the price given I was buying a few other bits and pieces.
Glute Ham Raise Developer Bench - Australia
It seems extremely solid considering them amount of adjustments that can be done...it feels almost commercial in quality, but some of the welds and the way some of the pieces fit together leave some room for improvement.
It's bigger than I expected, but I suppose that adds to it's sturdy feel.
After getting on it, I wouldn't want it to be any smaller.
Took about an hour or so to put it all together with the help of a mate.
My only major issue is that one of the hex/allen bolts was defective and didn't have a a hex shape cut into it. I will have to get in touch with gym and fitness to get it resolved.
Other than that I am really happy with the unit. I will be waiting on that final bolt before really using it properly.
Glute Ham Raise Developer Bench - Australia
It seems extremely solid considering them amount of adjustments that can be done...it feels almost commercial in quality, but some of the welds and the way some of the pieces fit together leave some room for improvement.
It's bigger than I expected, but I suppose that adds to it's sturdy feel.
After getting on it, I wouldn't want it to be any smaller.
Took about an hour or so to put it all together with the help of a mate.
My only major issue is that one of the hex/allen bolts was defective and didn't have a a hex shape cut into it. I will have to get in touch with gym and fitness to get it resolved.
Other than that I am really happy with the unit. I will be waiting on that final bolt before really using it properly.