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How to - tricep training, by Rippetoe

RyanF

New member
I've always liked the way that Rip does tricep extensions, but not because of any added involvement of the longhead, rather because of pec and lat involvement.
 

bull

Member
Bugger. I think I've been doing chins with my triceps for 20 years, certainly wasn't my lats anyway.
 

bull

Member
Arthur Jones wrote about this in detail in 1968.

Noah made a few scratches on a big rock when he was planning the ark that appeared to address the same subject too. I don't think it matters who was first if that was the point behind your post.

I noticed that he mentioned the bicep point that you raised recently in another thread too. I had never thought about it until then. I am going to experiment with biceps around that issue.
 

jj80

New member
Bouncing it off my head

<note: not a serious post for the less astute members of ausbb>
 

jj80

New member
Well he does say in the video one common way people do them is to keep the upper arm at a fixed angle with the torso, and perform the exercise such that the barbell comes down on the head 'aka skull crushers'.

That's how I was doing them (with a slight gap between the barbell and my head most of the time).
 

bull

Member
Yeah Darkoz I have always fixed the shoulder with my elbows about at my forehead and lowered the bar behind my head. There is no movement at the shoulder and at full extension my arms are at about 45 degrees. Don't see the point of ending with the arms vertical, there is no resistance at lockout like that. I'd rather keep some tension in the muscle throughout.
 
Yeah Darkoz I have always fixed the shoulder with my elbows about at my forehead and lowered the bar behind my head. There is no movement at the shoulder and at full extension my arms are at about 45 degrees. Don't see the point of ending with the arms vertical, there is no resistance at lockout like that. I'd rather keep some tension in the muscle throughout.

I agree bull, finishing the movement with your arms vertical over your chest as shown in the video takes some of the stress off the triceps.
 
Noah made a few scratches on a big rock when he was planning the ark that appeared to address the same subject too. I don't think it matters who was first if that was the point behind your post.

I noticed that he mentioned the bicep point that you raised recently in another thread too. I had never thought about it until then. I am going to experiment with biceps around that issue.

No, it does matter.
Andit's also a point of interest.
 

0ni

Registered Rustler
I never liked this shit it always gives me bad elbows
Now I just warm up benching with close grip bench and move my grip out as the weights get heavier. I do high rep band pushdowns as well. It's enough for my level
 
I have to ask though, does he actually lift apart from putting a fork to his mouth?
 
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Sticky

New member
Not really, nor does he coach any good lifters.

I don't rate ripp that highly, he wants people to pull in a raised heel lol.
 

catastrophic

New member
Not really, nor does he coach any good lifters.

I don't rate ripp that highly, he wants people to pull in a raised heel lol.

Scott have you read any of the Starting Strength books? He has a really good understanding of Bio Mechanics and his starting strength 'program' is actually pretty decent for noobie (<6month) lifters, due to it's simplistic nature. But you do need to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

(side note; last night one of my guys did some Sumo pulls in Oly shoes and it worked really well :D )
 

Sticky

New member
Your lifter didn't pull sumo last night Ben......

Of course I have read them, and I think SS is a good start..... Even though I think the inclusion of cleans is retarded.

Doesn't change the fact he isn't a PL coach.
 

walt

DuffProteinMan
sticky/cata/freako/bazza/other strength guys

what do you guys think of starting strength? to little volume for a beginner? to little back work?
 

Bazza20

New member
sticky/cata/freako/bazza/other strength guys

what do you guys think of starting strength? to little volume for a beginner? to little back work?

I agree with sticky. For a powerlifter apart from total beginner there are better things you can do. Rip has even said himself he coaches beginners not powerlifters anyway. So look elsewhere if you are a powerlifter.

The volume is low but its fine for beginners. They are beginners, they don't need how volume. Just focus on pushing strength up while you are getting the easy beginner gains. Add in more volume and complexity when you need it. In saying that I don't think rips program is special or magical in any way it's just a good standard beginner program apart from the cleans.

I don't think cleans are in the pure novice part but are added in later. I don't see the point unless you are a o lifter and then you wont be doing starting strength. I don't think they are great for athletes either. Plenty of better ways to get explosive for sport and weak beginners don't need to worry about explosive work until they are strong anyways.
 
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