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Overhead press thread

The best competition for judging overhead press strength in my opinion is the strongman log press.

A barbell strict press would be ideal but it is so hard to judge, with lay back and use of the lower body. Overhead anyway possible just favors Olympic lifters.

The log press while not strict and can be push pressed or jerked but still favors brute strength over technique due to the awkwardness of the log.
 
Yeah, log lift would be more strength rather than technique, but still like watching alexeev. He is not huge, but the timing and specific strength and speed is what sport is about (for me).
 
Also worth noting one arm kettlebell presses in hammering the lower rear part of the rotator cuff/upper back for those with imbalances and shoulder problems.

I basically kettlebell'd my way out of burtitis.
 
What I believe is that although the press can be a great shoulder builder, as with all exercises and in particular exercises around the shoulder joint they should be done on all planes or angles, focusing too much on one will quickly expose shoulder instability.

I think that if you really struggle with an exercise, in that it causes pain, you still try to keep it in your program, even if that is considerably lower the weight and increase the rep count.

That includes bodybiulders and power lifters and more importantly a person playing a sport.

As a result of this thread I tried the hammer strength OH press and it felt beautiful, the seat is angled back, the biomechanics of the machine seems to fit well with me.
 
Goosey said:
As a result of this thread I tried the hammer strength OH press and it felt beautiful, the seat is angled back, the biomechanics of the machine seems to fit well with me.
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All day I've been following your posts and I knew eventually you'd post this. Go on admit it you're a hammer strength sales rep.
 
why the fuck do you need a machine when you can pick up a bar and put it overhead, having control over your own bar path and mechanics
 
wingman said:
why the fuck do you need a machine when you can pick up a bar and put it overhead, having control over your own bar path and mechanics
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When you think about Wingers, how much control of the bar's path do you actually have when you're lifting a heavy weight over your head or a heavy loaded bar sitting on your shoulders during a squat for instance.
 
I totally heart ohp. Even though I've only done 1x70kg @ ~85kg. :/

Still probably my favourite lift.

edit: Also a 35kg DB x 1, which is maybe even more the favourite. :)
 
Strict Press

Bazza20 said:
Basically just a thread to spread the love for overhead pressing.

I find a big strict press much more impressive and a better judge of upper body strength than a big bench. Plus it gives you big wide shoulders.

What numbers are people putting up? Anyone hit over BW strict press?

What have you found works best to move your strict press up?
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Bazza20,

I agree on this it should be the bread and butter of a man's strength not the what do you bench syndrome that has evolved.
I have not hit BW on strict Press.
Ivé found nothing that works on moving the bar.
I've read a good book called Dinoasaur training by brooks Kubik
Dinosaur Training: Lost Secrets of Strength and Development: Brooks D Kubik: Amazon.com: Books
Drug free lifter.
Brooks Kubik Push Press 137kg (302lb) DRUG FREE - YouTube
If you havent heard of him its a good read.
Regards,
P.s. how's the cow's?
G.
 
Goosey, what do you think of Arnold presses. I got up to 5 reps on 33 kg (each hand) about 2 months ago.Most of my training on them 22.5-30k though, depending on light, medium or heavy week.

I alternate them with military presses, although might start doing more behindneck presses now.
 
wingman said:
why the fuck do you need a machine when you can pick up a bar and put it overhead, having control over your own bar path and mechanics
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I love nothing better than picking the bar up of the ground and pushing overhead wingman, but over the years the fixed position that the bar creates for me eventually causes pain particulary in my left shoulder.

I've pretty strong when I dip but I just don't think it wise just to do that.
 
Brick said:
All day I've been following your posts and I knew eventually you'd post this. Go on admit it you're a hammer strength sales rep.
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I've done a fair few workouts in my thirty + years Brick, it might have taken a while to work out what is best for me, but here I am still using a barbell, there are some machines I really like, some should be banned.

I'm looking at being able to continue another thirty, what about you?

I don't tell anybody here what they should do I just reflect from my own experience, this is what it's all about isnt it?

Some people collect cars, if I had money and space it would be full of barbells, dumbbells, hammer, vintage nautilus and the full range of medx.
 
spartacus said:
Goosey, what do you think of Arnold presses. I got up to 5 reps on 33 kg (each hand) about 2 months ago.Most of my training on them 22.5-30k though, depending on light, medium or heavy week.

I alternate them with military presses, although might start doing more behindneck presses now.
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Did he think of this exercise sparto?

If he did, he's not as dim as he sims, any dumbbell work will be better for the shoulder if the barbell causes issues, but more often than not your restricted by the weight that is available unless you are able to add plates.

The path that the Arnold press follows can eliminate impingement for some.
 
I've found I am really weak at dumbbell overhead press so starting to do them a lot to see what happens.
 
Goosey said:
I love nothing better than picking the bar up of the ground and pushing overhead wingman, but over the years the fixed position that the bar creates for me eventually causes pain particulary in my left shoulder.

I've pretty strong when I dip but I just don't think it wise just to do that.
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It only took a few years to work out how rough the fixed position of a barbell was on my shoulders. I will throw in some barbell shoulder press or bench every now and then to see what I can lift, but otherwise I prefer to stick to the dumbbell varieties (or hammer strength).
 
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