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Caffeine

Ah I see. Does it have the same advantages as green tea or is it a completely different thing? I heard someone talking about green tea with honey, that sounds alright.


I know Fadi has written a lot on white tea, I'm off to the gym now so I don't have the time to look it up for you but I think if you search for it you will find it.

/Mattias
 
To sum it all up Fadi... if muscle is your goal quit caffeine however if fat loss is your goal 2green and 2 white if any. I've gone 3 days without any caffenie now and I'm feeling great.
 
Well more muscle = more active cells to sitmuate = more protien synthesis = more metabolic funciton = burning more calories..
 
I can not say for certain as i do not know.. Basically from what i have read caffeine increases cortisol (catabolic) and decreases DHEA (very anabolic).

Life is full of these sorts of decisions.. As with everything you have to out weigh the positives to the negatives i.e Exercise icnreases DHEA, tea contains anti oxidants and L-theanine high levels of L-theanine stimulate doplamine (makes you happy) happyness = less anxiety and more anaboltic (is that a word) environment for your body..


I think the end decision lies with you all we can do with each other is swap and share ideas and experiences everyone needs to make there own mind up for what works for them in the long run.
 
And what do you do yourself Noobs? Are you a tea drinker these days or do you stay well away since reading that book?
 
I havnt read the book, That was a copy and paste.. I would mind getting it..

Suffering from an anxiety disorder so quite seceptable (sorry spelling) to adrenal fatique i stay away from it now. I have the occasional pepsi max coke zero with a meal at say an RSL or if we go out. But i dont buy it anymore and i stopped drinking green/white tea and coffee.

I like my rooibos now :)

ROOIBOS TEA
Rooibos is a herbal tea from South Africa and contains no caffeine at all. Like green and white teas, rooibos is high in antioxidants and aids digestion. Rooibos is reputed to aid in the relief of headaches, insomnia, nervous tension, mild depression, hypertension and stomach cramps. It has a soothing effect on the central nervous system thereby promoting relaxation.
 
To sum it all up Fadi... if muscle is your goal quit caffeine however if fat loss is your goal 2green and 2 white if any. I've gone 3 days without any caffenie now and I'm feeling great.

Gauche,

There's no problem whatsoever in taking in white or gren tea. I'm going back and forth between this forum and another, so here's a copy and paste of an answer I had given 2 hours ago on the question of caffeine...

1. Taking caffeine would raise your cortisol levels.

2. Cortisol is a hormone that is responsible for storing fat.

3. Caffeine has been found to facilitate the break down of fatty acids to be used whilst at the same time conserving glycogen levels

4. Cortisol does the opposite of #3 above in addition to facilitating amino acid break down, which = muscles.

5. To have your adrenal gland secrete adrenaline naturally due to the excitement of going to the gym and having a workout is different from forcing your adrenal glands to do the same thing uncontrollably due to caffeine stimulation. One is being measured by your own smart body, whilst the other has been forced upon it. In other words, you may have had a bad night sleep and your training would have been less than ideal (that day due to adrenal fatigue); so instead of giving the body what it needs, you do the exact opposite by further depleting your adrenaline pool and further raising your cortisol levels; not a smart move I'm afraid!

Now I’ve just mentioned #5 once here to illustrate for you a not so unusual scenario. The only thing I did not do above is times it by 100+ times this scenario is repeated. And then the bodybuilder wonders why he’s finding it damn hard to put on any muscles when he’s “training hard and properly all the time”! So you see, artificially raising your workout’s intensity may not be what the doctor has ordered. If a bodybuilder wants caffeine, my advice to him would be to obtain it through white and green tea, both of which have a caffeine balancing act due to their levels of polyphenols and L- Theanine.


6. Now as long as your adrenal glands are in tip top shape and functioning properly, then they can automatically regulate cortisol and keep it in the appropriate range. But the question is, are they and if so then why would a bodybuilder need to resort to caffeine to stimulate his adrenal glands (which are supposed to have been working properly remember)? This is as much about health as it is about building muscles and losing fat as far as I’m concerned.

7. Insulin assists amino acid and glucose transport into muscle cells and blunts cortisol release.

8. Cortisol does the opposite of #7!


Fadi.
 
I gave up coffee for around 6 months, i felt no change. I also dont drink, smoke or take recreational or prescription drugs, caffeine is the last thing i need to worry about.
 
I gave up coffee for around 6 months, i felt no change. I also dont drink, smoke or take recreational or prescription drugs, caffeine is the last thing i need to worry about.


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Nor do I....

Noobs, in one sentence, what does caffeine do to the body?



Its getting a loan with 80% interest rate due next week. 200% increase in adrenaline and also an increase in ACTH but not for DHEA for cortisol.. when cortisol is produced in large amounts the adrenals cant produce DHEA our vitality hormone and a precursor to testosterone!Decrease melatonin (potent antioxidant and sleep regulator), inhibits s4 stage sleep (where our body repairs itself with growthhormone)
Restrics blood flow to brain, blocks gaba ,adesone receptors (gaba is our bodys natural valium) restrics blood vessells all over the body but increases blood pressure...

There is enough scientific backed research in this book im reading to make me never want to touch the stuff again.. Once you realise the truth behind the matter and how it is simply the same as the nicotine industry. Remember how nicotine wasnt addictive and safe and healthy to smoke? Alll these 500ml v drinks are going to wreak haovic in society in future generations.

And if nobody believes me do the reserach for yourself i dont make this shit up...
 
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I get a flat white with an extra shot every now and then because its an awesome hit.

Might as well be doing a line of base or gas lol

Well caffeine works on the same part of the brain as ampetamines obviously to alot lesser extent, but it does have an impact on seratonin and dopamine as with all drugs of addiciton, and this is why they ARE drugs of addiction..



Look i ****ing love coffee... Coming form a realestate backgorund i lived of the shit with clients. It is something embedded in our culture so deep.

All we can do in the end is present infomation and people make up their minds from that..

But you have to know exactly what you are doing... Then make an informed decision on what to do with their life.

Simply doing something because it is accepted is ridiculous, this is why so many people just use drugs these days..
 
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Is caffeine from mother okay?

HAHA

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Caffeine is caffeine...

No matter what the source, coffee, tea, chocolate , herbs (gurana) it is all the same substance..
 
Excuse me n00bs (if you don't mind brother).

Noobs, in one sentence, what does caffeine do to the body?

Caffeine gives you a false sense of energy whist simultaneously stimulating your CNS and draining your adrenal glands which in the long run will have you feeling lethargic and in need of caffeine!

The makers of caffeinated products are not as dumb as one thinks but are one of the smartest (and heartless) people on the face of this planet, period


Fadi.
 
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