Jesus Christ even I haven't stooped to the level of working out velocity
PC - What about box squats? Have you played with box squats because everyone will tell you they're the bees knees.
EL - Yeah I've tried em before. When I've tried me before they don't work for me. My stance isn't very wide so when I've used em I feel like I'm pitching too far back or too far forward. So when I tried em I did widen my stance a little bit, and I didn't do em for too long. I really just didn't care for em. I figured if I'm going to squat I might as well just squat, and squat all the way down like I normally do.
PC - Right, and I think a lot of information is misguided for raw lifting. Some raw guys will follow equipment based templates or ideas, and it's mostly based around hamstrings and glutes and low back. And the truth is, raw squatting is a lot of quad power.
EL - Oh God yes it is. That's for sure.
PC - Right, and no matter what anyone says the philosophies are backwards. Raw guys need to train to be strong out of the bottom and equipped guys need to train to be strong at the top. So the philosohpies can't be the same.
EL - No they really can't be.
You are daft
Box squats will work the same muscles you need for the deadlift.
My suggestion was not high bar squats. Your hypothesis about the quads not being important in the bottom of the squat is hilarious. I didnt say the posterior chain wasnt important either. In fact my suggestion from the start has been that a box squat is bad because it changes the mechanics too much and i suggested swapping one day to a box deadlift day to take the stress off the lower back. Every tangent in this thread was caused by you.
I didnt say that power out the hole was 100% quads that is something you made up.
And saying that a 200kg box squat generates 100j of energy is fucking bananas
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