Sure there are going to be some, after all it is a bbing forum which more people seem to be doing PL, but my point was more there are not heaps doing 150 let alone 250....
And there is a massive, massive difference between doing 150kgs for reps and 250kgs for reps.
I can only think of 2 people that could do 250 for reps - Sticky and Bazza (1RM of 270, so I assume he can rep out some at 250).
I'm aiming for a 1RM of 250kgs in about 5 weeks, but it'd be at least probably middle of next year before I'd be doing sets at 250. And that's assuming I want to get any stronger in my deadlift.
And there is a massive, massive difference between doing 150kgs for reps and 250kgs for reps.
I can only think of 2 people that could do 250 for reps - Sticky and Bazza (1RM of 270, so I assume he can rep out some at 250).
I'm aiming for a 1RM of 250kgs in about 5 weeks, but it'd be at least probably middle of next year before I'd be doing sets at 250. And that's assuming I want to get any stronger in my deadlift.
SO does this take us back to old arguement about reps ranges for strength training compared to bodybuilding...My back was more thicker back then than when I did rows/chins compared to now.
This is due to the higher reps and sets.
Even though my deads have gone up 100+ kg.
My back was more thicker back then than when I did rows/chins compared to now.
This is due to the higher reps and sets.
Even though my deads have gone up 100+ kg.
Arent deadlifts bad for your lower back and knees?
you're thinking of squats mate
Fuzz and Scott pull 300+ and I have pulled a 275 with the texas cheat bar while heavily fatigued mid-sheiko. We are all wide as fuck, nuff said.
Deadlifts are not necessary to build a wide back. If you're injured and can't pull then you can still build something pretty impressive with rows, shrugs and chins. But if you're just skipping deads because you're a pussy and don't want to work hard then you're just making gains harder for yourself. And did I mention that you're being a pussy?
If you can deadlift and you want a big back then deadlift dammit!
SO does this take us back to old arguement about reps ranges for strength training compared to bodybuilding...
Fuzz and Scott pull 300+ and I have pulled a 275 with the texas cheat bar while heavily fatigued mid-sheiko. We are all wide as fuck, nuff said.
Deadlifts are not necessary to build a wide back. If you're injured and can't pull then you can still build something pretty impressive with rows, shrugs and chins. But if you're just skipping deads because you're a pussy and don't want to work hard then you're just making gains harder for yourself. And did I mention that you're being a pussy?
If you can deadlift and you want a big back then deadlift dammit!
Yeah Dorian Yates and Shawn Ray your both pussies
I don't think 3 people makes a correlation. Especially if PEDs are concerned. No disrespect to anyone of course.
I think what this boils down to most is genetics and what you respond to. My upper back doesn't really respond very much to anything, be it rows or deads.
Strictly speaking, I don't think deads are necessary for bodybuilding. But I can't imagine ever NOT doing them either.
But if you really don't want to do them, and your back responds well enough with rows and chins and whatever else, then I don't see a problem with that.
EDIT: I should mention that not everybody trains to be a he-man or to be super strong. Some people just want to look good or have an above average physique. You don't need to deadlift 300kgs to achieve that. You don't have to deadlift at all in fact.
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