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A bloke I was speaking to the other day reckoned that you should be to row (bent over rows or pen daly row) approximately as much as you can bench, so that your muscles are 'balanced' - thoughts on this? Correct, rubbish, bro science?
I don't know what a Pendlay row is (and I probably don't give a shit). But barbell bent over row should be close to Bench Press.
they don't tend to be very strict once they get over 140kg for some reason. When I was benching 180+ my barbell bent over row was ridiculous 160kg x 5 no straps. I use up to 130 x 6-8 now with my bench at 160-170. Ted Arcidi did a 700lb bench with single ply shirt so I guess his raw bench would have been around 600lb. He barbell bent rowed over 450lb for reps (and did behind the neck press with the same!).
oh yeah, I've been benching quite heavily for 30 years and even though they grind and creak a little bit, my shoulders seem to still be up to the task. Seated cable rows are another great exercise and don't seem to torque the lower back as much. Seated cable row weight should be about the same as bent over row weight. They are probably superior because you can retract the scapula more than in a bent over row.
I don't know what a Pendlay row is (and I probably don't give a shit). But barbell bent over row should be close to Bench Press.
they don't tend to be very strict once they get over 140kg for some reason. When I was benching 180+ my barbell bent over row was ridiculous 160kg x 5 no straps. I use up to 130 x 6-8 now with my bench at 160-170. Ted Arcidi did a 700lb bench with single ply shirt so I guess his raw bench would have been around 600lb. He barbell bent rowed over 450lb for reps (and did behind the neck press with the same!).
Pendlay row is with hips hinged so that torso is almost parallel to ground. Each rep goes to ground like high rep deadlifts would before being rowed to your tits
Maybe if we are talking chest supported rows here then that would make total sense. A Pendlay Row isn't a fair comparison because of the isometric hold factor your posterior chain has to endure. In that sense the bench is lot easier, lying there on a comfy bench missionary style with the weight over you. Hence it is my opinion that if your pendlay row is at least as good as your military press than you are doing quite well.
Maybe if we are talking chest supported rows here then that would make total sense. A Pendlay Row isn't a fair comparison because of the isometric hold factor your posterior chain has to endure. In that sense the bench is lot easier, lying there on a comfy bench missionary style with the weight over you. Hence it is my opinion that if your pendlay row is at least as good as your military press than you are doing quite well.
I don't like any of the standing rows. As you try and increase weight they just turn into a bar hump and you can't tell if you got stronger or just cheating more. I prefer chest supported.
I don't like any of the standing rows. As you try and increase weight they just turn into a bar hump and you can't tell if you got stronger or just cheating more. I prefer chest supported.