Final acceptances are yet to be out for derby day, but when they are I will have a look and do a little write up, as for Melbourne cup in the past few years I have always used the Geelong cup as a good form line, but not sure about this year, Gatewood was pretty impressive so may have a couple of dollars on it, but really liked Americains run in the Caulfield Cup and you can't really go past Dunadens run either, with Ethiopia looking to be the Aussies best chance.