Could I please see the scientific evidence supporting 3 a week full body programs V's split programs for a lifter that has a bodybuilding goal?
I know alot of ppl on here will support full body splits but where is the evidence that says this is better, of course for someone focusing on strength then yes but please provide evidence that this will be better for a lifter focusing on bodybuilding as a goal?
Where do these numbers come from?
Squat 140kg
Bench 100kg
Deadlift 180kg
What says that these number will indicate that - "Generally if you can reach this level of strength, you will have gained significant size / fitness"
If you are a beginner goal is pretty much irrelevant you just need to build a base and get stronger.
Those numbers are just made up, no
law or lifting god says they are perfect but they are still a very good indicator. If you can't make those numbers you are a beginner and need to focus on getting stronger if you want to make decent progress.
If you are a beginner goal is pretty much irrelevant you just need to build a base and get stronger.
Those numbers are just made up, no
law or lifting god says they are perfect but they are still a very good indicator. If you can't make those numbers you are a beginner and need to focus on getting stronger if you want to make decent progress.
There are some professional natural bodybuilders that cant deadlift 180kg, does that make them beginners?
So no one answered my question - what weights should I be completing full reps of before I can graduate to 'curl monley' exercises?
So no one answered my question - what weights should I be completing full reps of before I can graduate to 'curl monley' exercises?
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Pretty much this, you need a strength basis before you can worry about curl monkey exercises.
You need to build a strong base to build your body on before you can body build, just common sense really.
When building a sky scraper, most of the work goes into building the footings for it, if the footings are no good the whole thing will come toppling down, same with body building.
I would say yes, 180kg is an easy goal to achieve if you are playing with iron, I am a beginner, and don't take my dead lifting and squatting dead serious, I train for 30 minutes 3 x a week at home and I easily achieved and mostly surpassed the lifts indicated (see signature) in a matter of months.
So someone that supposedly trains seriously and can't do these lifts you are a beginner, or a pussie, you choose.(unless hampered by injury of course)
Yes a professional natural bodybuilder is a beginner because he cant deadlift 180kg, that makes sense.
But a bodybuilders goal isnt to lift as much weight possible its to build as much muscle possible.
Thanks guys...
Well my current lifts are: (and this is what I do 8 or 10 reps of)
Bench: 100KG
Dead: 120KG
Squat (A2G): 80KG
I've said this before, I think I could go heavier with the deads but I feel like I might compromise technique and risk injury. I also need to get some straps because I struggle to keep a grip on the bar in the last few reps!
Strong bench compared the rest, ie you bench more than you squat, which is strange considering you legs are a lot bigger and used to carrying loads.
What is A2G???
Keep the form good or risk injury, so you are doing the right thing training within your ability.
Are the above 1RM or for reps.
I also need to get some straps because I struggle to keep a grip on the bar in the last few reps!
I've been lifting for 8 years did 170 dead. Stopped deads I'm only now doin 160 and b fucked if I'm a beginner. When your goal isn't 1 rep strength and more about aesthetics I don't think it's pussy not to hit a 200 dead.
But a bodybuilders goal isnt to lift as much weight possible its to build as much muscle possible.
I've been lifting for 8 years did 170 dead. Stopped deads I'm only now doin 160 and b fucked if I'm a beginner. When your goal isn't 1 rep strength and more about aesthetics I don't think it's pussy not to hit a 200 dead.
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