real question cholesterol

[Penn]

Doctors tell us all the time high LDL cholesterol is a risk to heart disease. what do you think that really means?

 

[C_T]

legit heart specialists have been opening people up with high and low cholesterole readings, and its no correlation, alot of really high choleterole in the blood can also be zero heart problems.

my belief is sugar is the issue, sugar and obesity. then shit goes wrong, start a chain reaction where they don't sleep properly and further chain reactions, 20yrs of that and bam. done.

 

[Penn]

nice opener. what about things like genetics, free redicals, aging? any data on sugar, sleep ? personally i think its mostly bullshit. its correlation not causation. pure statistical bullshit.

 

[C_T]

its much like saying testosterone = cancer. every old persons with cancer, the new theropy is a test reducing drug...
are they serious???

don't worry about diet, don't worry about environment or sleep or anything, lets just use the pillz.

they need testosterone and hgh to help the immune system which will keep shit at bay. oh but there are no huge studies in this, why? becaues hardly anyone is allowed test to start with!!!! and those who do are probably desperate which isn't the general public.

think outside the box.

 

[C_T]

nice opener. what about things like genetics, free redicals, aging? any data on sugar, sleep ? personally i think its mostly bullshit. its correlation not causation. pure statistical bullshit.

we are legit chemical driven, everything we do, from red blood cells, to making them, to filtering cells, to neurons, adrenaline and nor-adrenaline keeping us awake, we are all just a bunch of chemicals, way more complex than we can believe...

im not a believer of genetics, i call this hard work. and persistance.

free radicals? i think they have their place, why does weed become a anti cancer drug? i think everything has their place good or bad and our understanding is not yet as accuracte as we believe, its driven by profits and money atm.

i hate stats. they are based on the general public which is fat, old and useless... trust any study on that and it has exactly how much relavence to someone like me and maybe you who is none of the above???

 

[C_T]

i don't hate stats cause of the numbers, i hate them because mostly, in the real life, they are very very wrong. and people know this.

 

[Penn]

That's it mang. they just treating symptoms not curing problems. "Eat less salt, Eat less fat, take this pill". Fuck that its not going to fix the problem. How about you get off your lazy arse lose some fat you Kunce.
Be active make better choices get stronger.
LDL has got fuck all to do with heart disease its not even about heart disease its about atheroscerosis and athrosclerosis and even then its just present its not a cause.

 

[C_T]

its really about being wise about what you put in your mouth, don't eat cerial and pop tarts, don't eat pre-made bullshit, don't blend 15 things into a smoothy you can easily drink...

its common sense and eating whole foods.

you can still splurge a little, so long as common sense and whole foods is the main source, which is delishous, eggs, meats, vege, nuts, whole fruits etc so long as you don't blend the fuckers down and drink it thinking your cool, no you got like 15+ vege/fruit you could not sit there and eat while, yet drinking! NOOO! so many epic fails who think they doing right. i give up helping them...

 

[Penn]

some definitions for you kunce playing at home
atheroscerosis = narrowing of your muther fucking arteries
athrosclerosis = hardening of your muther fucking arteries bitch

 

[C_T]

elighten us kunce more Penn, please

 

[Penn]

so how does atherosrosis and athrosclerosi occur? I know you wanna know, hell I wanna know.
google it kunce. this it what you will get ..."According to experts, atherosclerosis begins with damage to the endothelium caused by high blood pressure, smoking, or high cholesterol. That damage leads to the formation of plaque. When bad cholesterol, or LDL, crosses the damaged endothelium, the cholesterol enters the wall of the artery.
and you know what. That's bullshit, the mechanisms that cause these conditions are unknown, this shit they tell you are risk factors, not the cause.
here it is from the national heart lung and blood institute in America.

The exact cause of atherosclerosis isn't known. However, studies show that atherosclerosis is a slow, complex disease that may start in childhood. It develops faster as you age.

they go on to name a number of factors

• Smoking
• High amounts of certain fats and cholesterol in the blood
• High blood pressure
• High amounts of sugar in the blood due to insulin resistance or diabetes

are they the cause? they dont know for certain.

 

[C_T]

well then you add stress and no good sleep and perhaps smoking and shitty died, and;

and of a sudden, you areries will narrow. your not performing your restoration duties, shit builds up when you can't get ontop of shit, just like a house is our body, it needs a certain upkeep. for real. im not making this up...

 

[C_T]

so how does atherosrosis and athrosclerosi occur? I know you wanna know, hell I wanna know.
google it kunce. this it what you will get ..."According to experts, atherosclerosis begins with damage to the endothelium caused by high blood pressure, smoking, or high cholesterol. That damage leads to the formation of plaque. When bad cholesterol, or LDL, crosses the damaged endothelium, the cholesterol enters the wall of the artery.
and you know what. That's bullshit, the mechanisms that cause these conditions are unknown, this shit they tell you are risk factors, not the cause.
here it is form the national heart lung and blood institute in America.

anyone can google bro, your supposed to put it in your own words, like ones people here will understand, like anything in life, you can't just copy and past and think thats cool... grrr

do i have to bring out the plagerism and you don't understand it untill you truely describe it in your own langauge? guess i just did, sorry...

 

[Penn]

anyone can google bro, your supposed to put it in your own words, like ones people here will understand, like anything in life, you can't just copy and past and think thats cool... grrr

do i have to bring out the plagerism and you don't understand it untill you truely describe it in your own langauge? guess i just did, sorry...

I was on the run and edited it heavily read it again for me, then decide

 

[C_T]

and what about COPD?

 

[C_T]

I was on the run and edited it heavily read it again for me, then decide

its respectable, i agree whats written but. the subject matter still gets me rancy without explaining more...

 

[Penn]

and what about COPD?

if you have it your fucked !!

 

[C_T]

or cystic fibrosis...

 

[Penn]

its respectable, i agree whats written but. the subject matter still gets me rancy without explaining more...

which bit ? i can expand .

 

[C_T]

well the you explained the condition, but nothing else;
eg skinny arteries but don't achnowledge the cause, its def not choleterole. maybe once skinny yeah it's a problem from the molecule being kinda big

so how else do people get skinny arteries besides the myth of cholestrol?