• Keep up to date with Ausbb via Twitter and Facebook. Please add us!
  • Join the Ausbb - Australian BodyBuilding forum

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

    The Ausbb - Australian BodyBuilding forum is dedicated to no nonsense muscle and strength building. If you need advice that works, you have come to the right place. This forum focuses on building strength and muscle using the basics. You will also find that the Ausbb- Australian Bodybuilding Forum stresses encouragement and respect. Trolls and name calling are not allowed here. No matter what your personal goals are, you will be given effective advice that produces results.

    Please consider registering. It takes 30 seconds, and will allow you to get the most out of the forum.

Supplements and steroids vs. time!

well there you go, alway assumed clen was a roid. learn something new everyday....

Haven't used any of that stuff so hadn't even looked into it to be honest, but seen and heard about it amongst steroid users so assumed it was.
 
but we are living in a era of easy options.

People want the easy road

And this is the point of Fadi's article. Have patience and work hard. As you said Drain a lot of people don't think that way they just say 'hey give me a drug to fix this problem'.
 
its like everything with life though. People wanna lose weight and they dont fix diet.
Just take every pill under the sun

People wanna run before they can walk.
 
People wanna run before they can walk.
Great point. Hospitals and other medical institutions are filled with people who thought they could run before they could walk...!

We're here to point out that there's a better option, the only proper option in fact, and that is to master walking before contemplating running.

One can not force another to listen and follow, but one can provide some information and let another reflect upon it and hope that that person would see the light and follow it.


Fadi.
 
I like it how a criticism of the supplement and steroid ethos among weightlifters has turned into a defense of steroid use.

Most people want to be strong and have a physique that will turn heads wherever they go. You don't have to take steroids to do that, just hard work and patience.

For some people hard work and patience aren't enough but for the most I agree with you.
 
well there you go, alway assumed clen was a roid. learn something new everyday....

Haven't used any of that stuff so hadn't even looked into it to be honest, but seen and heard about it amongst steroid users so assumed it was.
Clen used incorr3ectly is much worse than roids being measure in mcg's and not mgs,
So you assume that these steroid use's you speak of
1. Know that it is not a 'riod (you didn't)
2. Know the correct dosing protocol
3. Are aware of the supporting supps required (for instance taurine to combat the shakes) but not limited too.
4. Know the potential risks like hardening of the arteries walls, etc
5. Most experienced clen users will take 'roids to minimise muscle loss.

Well?
 
Clen used incorr3ectly is much worse than roids being measure in mcg's and not mgs,
So you assume that these steroid use's you speak of
1. Know that it is not a 'riod (you didn't)
2. Know the correct dosing protocol
3. Are aware of the supporting supps required (for instance taurine to combat the shakes) but not limited too.
4. Know the potential risks like hardening of the arteries walls, etc
5. Most experienced clen users will take 'roids to minimise muscle loss.

Well?

No idea, just a few random tanks at a gym I used to go to that were into their bodybuilding. Just idle chat about diet, supplements etc while waiting for a weight bench and they said (amongst other things) they were cycling with test and clen. Steriod use doesn't interest me in any way shape or form to be honest.
 
And why should it? Taking risks with your hormones is not something any intelligent person would reccomend.
 
but xxxx people take risks every day with their health

Drinking, smoking, drugs etc.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I think drinking and smoking is completely different to hormone abuse. They shouldn't be catorgarised together.

Benefits of drinking and smoking.... You look cool?
 
Hahaha, you look cool.

To be honest, you don't even look cool anymore, unless you're 16 then your just stupid.
 
ive had friends get cancer from smoking and drinking.. The price u pay for looking cool... I read that something like 4.9 million people die from smoking per year.
Yet its not banned? how many people die from steroids?
If i was the goverment id make all the army take the juice and head off to war looking like dolph hahahahaha

dolph_lundgren_%28ivan-drago%29_ieri.jpg


I stopped drinking, taking mind altering drugs and smoking at 15 im now 29. havent touched anything since i was 15. I just think other shit is way more harmful than roids. Im not on them at all. I just got a few mates who take them
Straight edge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I'll second that.

Do you ever drink shrek?
never. I will not let alcohol enter my bloodstream.

ive had friends get cancer from smoking and drinking.. The price u pay for looking cool... I read that something like 4.9 million people die from smoking per year.
Yet its not banned? how many people die from steroids?
If i was the goverment id make all the army take the juice and head off to war looking like dolph hahahahaha

dolph_lundgren_%28ivan-drago%29_ieri.jpg


I stopped drinking, taking mind altering drugs and smoking at 15 im now 29. havent touched anything since i was 15. I just think other shit is way more harmful than roids. Im not on them at all. I just got a few mates who take them
Straight edge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's awesome that you stopped drinking and taking those shit drugs.
 
I forgot needing alcohol to be able to socialise. That's the same as me shrek I haven't had a drop since January and don't intend on.
 
Top