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I love this old argument. Plenty of competitors have no place calling themselves bodybuilders and some who never compete adopt the whole lifestyle. There is no solution that fits everyone. I enjoy the fact that lots of people are so uncomfortable with ambiguity that they invent their own definition and then argue to support it against someone else's definition.
 
A surfer, one that surfs travels in a panel van with the surf board mounted on a roof rack.

A surfy; one that travels in a panel van with the surf board "bolted" to the roof rack.
 
Agree with [MENTION=10068]bull[/MENTION]; when people ask - why do you train? , what are your goals? , you going to compete? ... Nope. Why the need to give yourself a label?
 
Agree with [MENTION=10068]bull[/MENTION]; when people ask - why do you train? , what are your goals? , you going to compete? ... Nope. Why the need to give yourself a label?
Yeah. I guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter or mean shit anyway.

I lift. Its fun. I do it for the challenge.
 

The problem is that "training" is inherently vague. Back in the day you'd go to the gym or lift weights for a purpose, usually to improve strength for a sport. But now training in itself is a "sport". The problem is that bodybuilding isn't a sport, it's performance art, like ballet.

So where you can say "let's go have a game of footy", it's weird and wrong to say "let's go have a game of bodybuilding".

Like what's been said, there are people who have competed that have no business in bodybuilding. Does that make them bodybuilders? Yes, just really bad ones. Then you have people who live and breath the bodybuilding lifestyle. Are these people bodybuilders, probably more so than the people that stepped on stage in the first example.

So if you train to be a bodybuilder and call yourself one, does that make it so? I think yes. However it's up to others to judge weather you're good at it or not.
 
Basically what I was saying, if someone goes out hunting and is bad ie they get no animal, are they then just hikers with a gun??

Just because someone is bad at something and they part take in an activity does not mean they can't be identified via that activity, or are only good football players counted as football players??

And you are correct, I initially started training with weights to assist me in other sports, these days I train with weights as exercise to assist me in in daily life and to try and stay ahead of the ageing process a little, and it seems to be working, when I see other people my age around having trouble getting up a flight of stairs or moving some furniture around because they have a bad back or weak knees or what ever.
 


I agree. If you go hunting or fishing and aren't successful, you still engaged in that activity.