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sammaeltdo

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So i trained heavy deadlifts yesterday doing 190kg 3x3s. the first two sets felt so good. felt like i could maybe rep out 1-2 more reps but didnt push it. I rested 6 minutes between sets and then on the third set the first rep felt good, second felt super heavy and the third i could only get the bar to below my knees before i dropped the weight. Can anyone explain why the lift all of sudden became so much harder even though im having a substantial rest period.
 

Timeah

Captain Kunce
Rest period, although important and part of it, probably isn't the root cause.

First two sets you said you completed with 1-2 reps in reserves right?

That's fucken heavy. Circa 90% load. Maybe even a little more. So that's most of it.

There other part I think is condition. Is this your heaviest recent effort? What was last heavy session?

What other training took place recently.

No black or white answer here brother.

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sammaeltdo

New member
Rest period, although important and part of it, probably isn't the root cause.

First two sets you said you completed with 1-2 reps in reserves right?

That's fucken heavy. Circa 90% load. Maybe even a little more. So that's most of it.

There other part I think is condition. Is this your heaviest recent effort? What was last heavy session?

What other training took place recently.

No black or white answer here brother.

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My last heavy session was on sunday and i lifted 185 3 sets of 4. note that im doing my first cycle so my recovery is super fast.
 

Timeah

Captain Kunce
Drugs or no drugs. It's all the same, just recovery time is a little faster.

How did the last session feel? Cruised through fine?

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Timeah

Captain Kunce
Also, off days happen...to expect to feel great and "on it" just shows a lack of experience really.

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sammaeltdo

New member
Drugs or no drugs. It's all the same, just recovery time is a little faster.

How did the last session feel? Cruised through fine?

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the last session was similar actually. first 2 sets felt light. felt like i could easily get another rep. but then third set on the third rep couldnt lock out.
 

Timeah

Captain Kunce
Then it's probably just conditioning in terms of loads being used. Need to give adaptation time to happen.

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sammaeltdo

New member
Then it's probably just conditioning in terms of loads being used. Need to give adaptation time to happen.

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yeh that sounds reasonable. ive deadlifted alot in my training but until starting this program im doing now i hadnt deadlifted in almost 6 months. so maybe that massive downtime with no deadlifting has fried my stamina
 

sammaeltdo

New member
yeh that sounds reasonable. ive deadlifted alot in my training but until starting this program im doing now i hadnt deadlifted in almost 6 months. so maybe that massive downtime with no deadlifting has fried my stamina

this is my 4th session of the new program, 2 weeks in
 

stanly stud

Member
so why are you doing Deadlifts? for overall power?, thick traps?, Back? I think rack pulls are OK but i rather do direct work for my lower back,traps..etc. Stiff legged/Romanian Deads are useful but to me Romanian Deads are basically rack pulls.
save your lower back do 45% Hypers, do shrugs for traps, lats are better trained with cables at various angles/Barbell,Hammer rows. I see twinks in the Gym pulling a decent weight with no back development.

 
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Timeah

Captain Kunce
Save your lower back?
Just deadlift properly?

I agree the deadlift is a very technical exercise. But performed correctly is also a very effective mass builder...But most gym junkies are useless at utilising any of the big 4 compound movements, or thier variations, with proper technique to be honest. Despite how good they think they are at them.

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stanly stud

Member
Save your lower back?
Just deadlift properly?

I agree the deadlift is a very technical exercise. But performed correctly is also a very effective mass builder...But most gym junkies are useless at utilising any of the big 4 compound movements, or thier variations, with proper technique to be honest. Despite how good they think they are at them.

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Yeah but my point is what are you getting out of them? For a bodybuilder you do not need them.
 

stanly stud

Member
I know most will say yeah but Franco & Arnold did them to build a "foundation". look at say Vince Gironda who never did them.
 

Timeah

Captain Kunce
Also, what makes you think you get nothing out of deadlifts?

My whole back was built on almost exclusively deadlifting. Sure I've used rows and chins etc in different training blocks here and there, but that main cause of my back growth was deadlifts.

I know. You don't need them. But they sure as shit are more fun than not doing them.

It's a hilarious notion to think they do nothing.

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Stiff 2G

SuperDooper Member
I understand both sides but I personally don't like using people like Vince Gironda and Frank Zane as examples. Vince Gironda also said don't Squat. Frank Zane set BB back years with his effeminate physique - you wouldn't see him hitting the ball up one off the Ruck.
 

Timeah

Captain Kunce
I understand both sides but I personally don't like using people like Vince Gironda and Frank Zane as examples. Vince Gironda also said don't Squat. Frank Zane set BB back years with his effeminate physique - you wouldn't see him hitting the ball up one off the Ruck.
That's it man. Also, both genetic freaks and mostly not relevant to anyone of normal human status, ala, most of fucking everyone. Except Gerry.

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sammaeltdo

New member
I understand both sides but I personally don't like using people like Vince Gironda and Frank Zane as examples. Vince Gironda also said don't Squat. Frank Zane set BB back years with his effeminate physique - you wouldn't see him hitting the ball up one off the Ruck.

i deadlift for strength. i also like deadlifting.
 

sammaeltdo

New member
i train back on a different day to deadlifts. i do all my lat work the day before i train deads. my back is currently best part of my physique good amount of mass and good separation. i just like being strong
 
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