Raw Elite

[TGM]

very sad. i think it's time we sit around in a circle & sing kumbaya. I shall play guitar...........

I'll play the bass.

And yeah, no need to call each other names.

FWIW I don't mind seeing gym lifts in sigs, this is a strength training forum not just a powerlifting forum.

 

[JDizzle]

This thread..

 

[Martigan]

^LOL, Good call.

 

[Paullie]

And that was Oli throwing the darts at the door when you walked in. hehe.

 

[Sumo]

Yes I think this thread got a little off track lol I was just after what people thought would be good standards for Raw Elite - I think the figures that Markos put up are a great classification for people to use.

 

[PowerBuilder]

ProRaw

QUALIFYING STANDARDS

CLASS ELITE MASTER LEVEL 1 LEVEL 2 LEVEL 3 LEVEL 4

80KG 630KG 580KG 530KG 480KG 430KG 380KG

I'm a noob. If an 80kg lifter was to score a total of 590kg, would that still classify them as a master?

This is probably not the right place...what are the right %'s for the total? In weightlifting, the clean & jerk is usually around 55% of the total...

 

[Paullie]

I'm a noob. If an 80kg lifter was to score a total of 590kg, would that still classify them as a master?

Yes

 

[TGM]

I'm a noob. If an 80kg lifter was to score a total of 590kg, would that still classify them as a master?

This is probably not the right place...what are the right %'s for the total? In weightlifting, the clean & jerk is usually around 55% of the total...

I think so, though if you weight in at 80.0kg ecactly does that put you in the 80 or 95kg class?


EDIT:

Just for formatting.

ProRaw

QUALIFYING STANDARDS


CLASS     ELITE   MASTER   LEVEL 1   LEVEL 2   LEVEL 3   LEVEL 4

80KG      630KG   580KG    530KG     480KG     430KG     380KG

95KG      680KG   630KG    580KG     530KG     480KG     430KG

110KG     730KG   680KG    630KG     580KG     530KG     480KG

110KG+    780KG   730KG    680KG     630KG     580KG     530KG

 

[PowerBuilder]

ok, let's say that lifter A weigh's 83.50 & totals 590kg....

 

[pistachio]

I agree a competition lift is more difficult, I just dont like the elitist attitude of gym lifts are worth nothing and someone who doesnt compete has no right to take part in a discussion.

Now it may not be the spin that was intended, but thats what its sounding like to me.

this is exactly what it was sounding like to me too

"lifts removed from sig as they were not performed in competition"

lol dr00.

Also lol'd

Just FYI, this whole gym lifts vs comp lifts could very easily be solved. here it is, you ready for this?

Take a person who has trained competively. Add up all there PBs performed at the gym. Divide by their competition total. You would expect this should be over 1. Do this for a 1000 lifters. Take trend values, or even simply averages for different weight classes. You'll probably find you gain say 5% in gym lifts when totalled or something like that. Problem solved. Now you can all stop swinging your cocks around and saying that your 150kg in comp is better than my 200kg at the gym.

This forum is already very much the PTC Forum now. Fadi hardly ever posts, we get fewer newbies than we used to, etc. I hope it won't become ProRaw - Competitors Only, Everyone Else Fuck Off.

Fuck, kill me when that happens.



I respect you Markos and what you have achieved, but i have no respect for the way you treat people who disagree with you.



Don't act so naive, no one is buying it.

*out before I get flamed to death*

 

[PowerBuilder]

i have noticed a massive culture shift here over the last few months.

 

[Bazza20]

Talk about some bruised vaginas here. Give Fadi a bit more respect. I don't think he is at home rocking in front of his computer to scared to post. He has said he is busy, leave it at that.

 

[Kyle Aaron]

Oliver and Kyle, you can Nut up or Shut up. If you want to comment on competition, like the competitors are, compete, it really is that simple.

Not a single guy that has actually competed has sided with you guys.

Don't put me with Oliver in that. I recognise that competition is different to the gym, never said otherwise. Competition is a shitload harder, same with anything like that. Spread it over hours, put an audience out there - you don't have to have competed or performed to realise that'll be a heap harder.

you little cock smokers

Calm down, Markos. You've got nothing to prove, your achievements prove what you need to prove, no need to toss around abuse.

My problem with lifts in sigs, which I know was your idea, and a great one, is I have seen some vids of members lifts in gyms.

And that's fair, too. But the bullshit lifts are rarely that impressive even if they were real.

Not meaning this to suggest gym lifts aren't important- just wanting to point out that they are hardly worth comparing.

No doubt about that.

 

[PowerBuilder]

Talk about some bruised vaginas here. Give Fadi a bit more respect. I don't think he is at home rocking in front of his computer to scared to post. He has said he is busy, leave it at that.

Amen to that. He's of a lot higher character than that. He has family, work & community responsibilities

 

[pistachio]

Give Fadi a bit more respect. I don't think he is at home rocking in front of his computer to scared to post. He has said he is busy, leave it at that.

Not what i was saying

 

[TGM]

ok, let's say that lifter A weigh's 83.50 & totals 590kg....

Then he'd be Level one in the 95kg class.

Still have no idea which class you fall into if you weight exactly 80, 95, or 110kg.

 

[Oli]

Lol kyle you're such a tard.

Fuck me I can derail anything.

 

[180sx kid]

I like those standards... 630 abour right for a 80kg lifter....

 

[eje]

Talk about some bruised vaginas here.

My vagina is fine thankyou

 

[SQBDL]

I'd make the standards higher. I like the Shieko classifications.